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    Re: Israel Plans Iran Strike; Citizens Say Government Serious [W:52]

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    We actually do no get much oil through the straits. Hardly enough to considering it vital, or a threat to us if its closed.
    The problem is not how much oil WE get but what happens to the price of oil when those who do get the oil traversing the straits get theirs cut off.

    Yes, this should be a European problem ... but even the EURO Rapid Deployment Force depends on US military aircraft.

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    Re: Israel Plans Iran Strike; Citizens Say Government Serious [W:52]

    Quote Originally Posted by Another Lurker View Post
    The problem is not how much oil WE get but what happens to the price of oil when those who do get the oil traversing the straits get theirs cut off.

    Yes, this should be a European problem ... but even the EURO Rapid Deployment Force depends on US military aircraft.

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    Well I guess its time they start footing the bill for their own defense then. Or they can start chipping in on our costs, instead of constantly bitching about our military size and influence.
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    Re: Israel Plans Iran Strike; Citizens Say Government Serious [W:52]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    You do understand that if I owe you a lot of money, you can't afford to have me go bankrupt, right? It's you that has the ultimate problem in that sitution that is every bit as big as mine.
    it depends on what the goal is. if your goal is to make money, sure.

    if, however, your goal is to feed your main competitor enough rope to hang himself, that's something of a different scenario.

    my opinion is that the true motivation lies somewhere in between.

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    Re: Israel Plans Iran Strike; Citizens Say Government Serious [W:52]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Because Iran is a threat, and only fools believe it is not.
    iran
    a nation that has not invaded another in 200 years
    that is the country you find threatening
    iran, a signatory to the nuclear non-proliferation agreement

    israel
    in contrast has invaded other nations within the last 200 weeks
    like the international bully that it is, israel initiates military action and then insists it was pre-emptive
    israel refuses to participate in the nuclear non-proliferation treaty, which refusal alone - despite its substantial nuclear weapons stockpile - should disqualify it from having ANY standing whether another nation acquires nuclear capacity
    only when israel agrees to dismantle its own nuclear weapons capability can it regain any credibility about another nation's pursuit of advanced weaponry
    the USA should not engage in, nor support, such hypocrisy
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Israel Plans Iran Strike; Citizens Say Government Serious [W:52]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    israeli officials are pounding the war drums, the question being when - not whether - it will trespass iran's sovereign territory and dismantle its infrastructure, and you cite iran as being the threat
    If Iran wasn't a threat, Israel wouldn't have to launch a pre-emptive strike out of self defense.

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    Re: Israel Plans Iran Strike; Citizens Say Government Serious [W:52]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If Iran wasn't a threat, Israel wouldn't have to launch a pre-emptive strike out of self defense.
    there is absolutely NO basis to conclude iran is a threat
    it's propaganda
    accepted by those without the capacity and/or willingness to think for themselves
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Israel Plans Iran Strike; Citizens Say Government Serious [W:52]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    iran
    a nation that has not invaded another in 200 years
    that is the country you find threatening
    iran, a signatory to the nuclear non-proliferation agreement

    israel
    in contrast has invaded other nations within the last 200 weeks
    like the international bully that it is, israel initiates military action and then insists it was pre-emptive
    israel refuses to participate in the nuclear non-proliferation treaty, which refusal alone - despite its substantial nuclear weapons stockpile - should disqualify it from having ANY standing whether another nation acquires nuclear capacity
    only when israel agrees to dismantle its own nuclear weapons capability can it regain any credibility about another nation's pursuit of advanced weaponry
    the USA should not engage in, nor support, such hypocrisy
    Israel's incursions into other countrie has always been in reaction to attacks frim other nations.

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    Re: Israel Plans Iran Strike; Citizens Say Government Serious [W:52]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    there is absolutely NO basis to conclude iran is a threat
    it's propaganda
    accepted by those without the capacity and/or willingness to think for themselves
    Iran is a state sponser of terrorist orgs that have attacked Israel in the past. That along with her assistance ti jihadis in Iraq and Syria and her nuke program make her a threat.

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    Re: Israel Plans Iran Strike; Citizens Say Government Serious [W:52]

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Not really. He claimed they will destroy the Zionist regime in Israel, not Israel itself. You make the distinction, right?
    And Zionists, specifically noted in ADDITION to "Zionist regime" and a much less specific term (used interchangably by Iran with Jews). And Americans.

    It's no different than the US claiming to liberate the people of a country form the atrocities of it's corrupted government. Iraq, for example.
    Wow.
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    Re: Israel Plans Iran Strike; Citizens Say Government Serious [W:52]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Iran is a state sponser of terrorist orgs that have attacked Israel in the past. That along with her assistance ti jihadis in Iraq and Syria and her nuke program make her a threat.
    your propaganda is showing
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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