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    Re: Israel Plans Iran Strike; Citizens Say Government Serious [W:52]

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Things may have changed, but the last i heard a couple years ago was that the youth of Iran (who make up the majority due to the conflict with Iraq) were not dissatisfied with an islamic state, they just want a moderate form so they can join the western world.

    They do indeed dislike the harsh, corrupt system they have now.

    But the old guard is actually going to simply die off. Almost an entire generation was killed off fighting Iraq. Theres old men and young men and no one in the middle. When the old bastards die off the time of the ayatollahs will end.
    I never said I was fundamentally opposed to Islamist parties in politics, so long as it takes place as part of a constitutional and democratic republic. The youth of Iran desire a true constitutional and democratic republic, and demonstrated that when millions of them poured into the streets. They are not in favor of an IRGC supported Mullah-acracy that reaches into the political, cultural, and economic space with increasing regularity and intensity. A state that arbitrarily arrests and imprisons thousands of its citizens at a time, and one that spirits off the most vocal dissidents to torture dungeons beneath Evin Prison, or lynches them in the countryside by Basij militia. Hussein-Ali Montazeri was the senior Grand Ayatollah in Iran, and tipped to be the next spiritual leader in the 1990's. How did he lost his position? He lost it when he lost faith in the Islamic Republic and sent out 'night letters' decrying the mass purges and executions the state had begun to engage in. Subjected to house arrest he became a totemic symbol for the Islamist opposition and the civil opposition. He died under house arrest. That is the Iran that people want, one that respects democratic liberties AND civil liberties.

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    Re: Israel Plans Iran Strike; Citizens Say Government Serious [W:52]

    What the heck .... Israel will attack ...or it won't attack .... whenever it thinks is the right time.


    Like it needs to ask for permission to everybody ....

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    Re: Israel Plans Iran Strike; Citizens Say Government Serious [W:52]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    What the heck .... Israel will attack ...or it won't attack .... whenever it thinks is the right time.


    Like it needs to ask for permission to everybody ....
    Not permission per se, but, a coordinated effort or at least let all allies what is going on. Nobody likes to get caught with their pants down...

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    Re: Israel Plans Iran Strike; Citizens Say Government Serious [W:52]

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    When you feel robbed at the pump I do hope you are blaming your government. The government's take on a gallon of gasoline greatly exceeds oil company profits on the same gallon. And government did nothing other than stand in the way at every step of the process.
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    Re: Israel Plans Iran Strike; Citizens Say Government Serious [W:52]

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    Not permission per se, but, a coordinated effort or at least let all allies what is going on. Nobody likes to get caught with their pants down...

    Had Israel asked "permission" to strike its enemies through history ..... there would be no Israel State by now

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    Re: Israel Plans Iran Strike; Citizens Say Government Serious [W:52]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    What the heck .... Israel will attack ...or it won't attack .... whenever it thinks is the right time.


    Like it needs to ask for permission to everybody ....
    Cross border incursions are frowned upon these days for most countries. But we got drones in everybodys business, so why get bent if Israel wants to bomd the crap out of Iran?

    Of course we'll have to get involved and that'll make ANOTHER generation of Iranians hate us for good reason.

    Thatll certainly further stability and democracy in the region
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    Re: Israel Plans Iran Strike; Citizens Say Government Serious [W:52]

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Cross border incursions are frowned upon these days for most countries. But we got drones in everybodys business, so why get bent if Israel wants to bomd the crap out of Iran that we'll have to get involved in that'll make ANOTHER generation of Iranians hate us for good reason.

    Thatll certainly further stability and democracy in the region

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    Re: Israel Plans Iran Strike; Citizens Say Government Serious [W:52]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    Had Israel asked "permission" to strike its enemies through history ..... there would be no Israel State by now
    I never said they did. I was taking about providing notice as a form of courtesy to their allies.

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    Re: Israel Plans Iran Strike; Citizens Say Government Serious [W:52]

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    I never said they did. I was taking about providing notice as a form of courtesy to their allies.

    Oh, that's ok then.... no problem there!

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    Re: Israel Plans Iran Strike; Citizens Say Government Serious [W:52]

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    I never said they did. I was taking about providing notice as a form of courtesy to their allies.
    I don't think they care about courtesy, only about themsleves.
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