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    Re: Julian Assange will be granted asylum, says official

    I thought he was scum until I saw some of the information that was being covered up that was released, including video of war footage. He did not steal the information, but was just a conduit of information some of which should have been public and was a wrongful coverup in my opinion.

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    Re: Julian Assange will be granted asylum, says official

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    So, you think that having such whistle blowers that could help prevent putting soldiers in harms way in the first place, are a risk to soldiers?

    We NEED whistle blowers, folks. It's not like the wikileaks folks were selling their info to the highest bidder...so they were not in it for the espionage. They were in it for government oversight, and if you've glanced at the news at all in the last...7 years, you'll realize just how much our government needs oversight. It's nothing but scandal after scandal after freaking scandal. We actually have a topic page called Scandal Du Jour, on this forum. And if you think for a minute that our elected and appointed reps are above sending soldiers into harms way based on lies, obfuscations, and deceits, then we are just not going to see eye to eye, are we?
    soldiers who leak stuff to foreign nationals ought to be shot

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    Re: Julian Assange will be granted asylum, says official

    Good. Now the U.S. should drop charges from Bradley Manning. That would be really good news. It'll never happen though. They could at least stop torturing him though.
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    Re: Julian Assange will be granted asylum, says official

    Quote Originally Posted by FinnMacCool View Post
    Good. Now the U.S. should drop charges from Bradley Manning. That would be really good news. It'll never happen though. They could at least stop torturing him though.
    Why would they drop charges? He (allegedly) broke the ****ing law. He deserves to never be a free man again. What he (allegedly) did cannot be allowed to go unpunished. People have to know that leaking classified information will end your time as a free person.
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    Re: Julian Assange will be granted asylum, says official

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Why would they drop charges? He (allegedly) broke the ****ing law. He deserves to never be a free man again. What he (allegedly) did cannot be allowed to go unpunished. People have to know that leaking classified information will end your time as a free person.
    So when are the people who actually killed people going to be arrested? After Wikileaks did expose quite a few murders.
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    Re: Julian Assange will be granted asylum, says official

    I know this is probably too much to ask due to how they are forced to operate but I wish they would act more professionally when communicating through social media. Its become an Assange sideshow, something he's personally said is a choice of theirs to deflect attention from others within wikileaks. I've felt far less receptive to the wikileaks message since the Assange circus started and I know a lot of other people feel the same.

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    Re: Julian Assange will be granted asylum, says official

    Quote Originally Posted by Britperspective View Post
    I know this is probably too much to ask due to how they are forced to operate but I wish they would act more professionally when communicating through social media. Its become an Assange sideshow, something he's personally said is a choice of theirs to deflect attention from others within wikileaks. I've felt far less receptive to the wikileaks message since the Assange circus started and I know a lot of other people feel the same.
    Yeah well, Mr Assange is a bit of ego centrist..

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    Re: Julian Assange will be granted asylum, says official

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Why would they drop charges? He (allegedly) broke the ****ing law. He deserves to never be a free man again. What he (allegedly) did cannot be allowed to go unpunished. People have to know that leaking classified information will end your time as a free person.
    No sensible person gives rat's ass whether anyone broke US law, considering the US govt. itself has been serial disobeyer of every single law on the books.

    As to whether Manning will be freed, much of it depends on the performance of his legal team, which is supposedly top notch. The last time the US tried to throw a soldier in jail for doing something noble--the case of Ehren Watada--the US govt. ended up losing against a powerful legal team (Watada is now a free man due the govt. being forced to drop the charges).

    However, the legal avenue is only one mechanism for getting someone freed from prison or getting the US govt. to drop charges. There is also the Barbour technique, named after an infamous former governor of the most backward, corrupt state in the US.

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    Re: Julian Assange will be granted asylum, says official

    The big question is why the UK hasn't arrested Assange yet. The law and/or international treaties have never been an impediment to Western governments friendly to the US, so there must be another reason.

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    Re: Julian Assange will be granted asylum, says official

    Personally I would love it if Assaunge did get brought to the US. Not because I think that he would be convicted, but quite the opposite. He would be exonerated.

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    Now I know that some people do not want to consider wikileaks as "the press" but guess what...it is, whether you like it or not. At best Assuange would be guilty of libel. And that charge has already flown the coop since our government has already admitted that those leaks were genuine.

    As for the Swedish charges, even those women admitted that the sex was consensual. Hell, at least one of them made breakfast and paid for his ticket back iirc.

    As for Manning, yeah he should be in prison as what he did WAS wrong.
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