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    Re: Julian Assange will be granted asylum, says official

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Seeking asylum is a pretty extreme reaction to being accused of a not very serious crime.
    So what you are saying is what Assange did was not a "legitimate rape"?

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    Re: Julian Assange will be granted asylum, says official

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Apparenlty not as much as Assange has against judicial procedure - at least Swedish judicial procedure. I continue to be amused by the sprited defense offered to the Austalian rapist.
    Assange has not been subjected to any Swedish judicial procedure since he has not been charged with any crime in Sweden. He is merely wanted for questioning.

    Why can't the Swedes go to England to question him?
    Don't they have a telephone? They could call him.

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    Re: Julian Assange will be granted asylum, says official

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Apparently the widespread love being shown to the Australian rapist is not shared by the people of Sweden. But then they've always been right wing lapdogs of the United States, as proven by their membership in Nato....uh.....there numerous military alliances with the U.Show they joined with us to defeat the scourge of Nazism......uh....there must be something.....

    Assange asylum seen as travesty of justice in Sweden - Yahoo! News
    Sweden has a history of assisting the USA with their torture activities.

    Sweden Violated Torture Ban in CIA Rendition
    Sweden Violated Torture Ban in CIA Rendition | Human Rights Watch

    That is why Assange does not want to go there.

    So why don't the Swedes question him in England? He has not been charged with anything.

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    Re: Julian Assange will be granted asylum, says official

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    It is, at the very least, fairer than most. We also have a free press, who would be monitoring the trial. This is all moot since there is no evidence currently that the US intends to ask for extradition nor that Assange is even charged with a crime.
    You mean like the trials on GITMO, and the journalist monitoring of rendition flights and torture? Or called Bush on his Iraq lies in the lead up to the war?

    Or the US court houses that allowed the state killing of mentally handicapped or the innocent?

    The US court system is a joke. It is based on money and those with money can get off easy, where as those with no money go away for life for lesser crimes.

    The problem here is... all the so called "fair" part of the US justice system can be pissed on if he is categorised as an "enemy combatant" and put under military control and we will most likely never see him again.
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    Re: Julian Assange will be granted asylum, says official

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    You mean like the trials on GITMO, and the journalist monitoring of rendition flights and torture? Or called Bush on his Iraq lies in the lead up to the war?

    Or the US court houses that allowed the state killing of mentally handicapped or the innocent?

    The US court system is a joke. It is based on money and those with money can get off easy, where as those with no money go away for life for lesser crimes.

    The problem here is... all the so called "fair" part of the US justice system can be pissed on if he is categorised as an "enemy combatant" and put under military control and we will most likely never see him again.
    Yes Pete, because an enemy combatant captured in a war zone is just like some one charged with a crime and extradited. Oh wait, they not not just alike...

    Let's face it, Assange doesn't want to face possible criminal charges for his actions and so he is trading on his fame and building this paranoid fantasy that those of you jealous of the US are just buying into.
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    Re: Julian Assange will be granted asylum, says official

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Yes Pete, because an enemy combatant captured in a war zone is just like some one charged with a crime and extradited. Oh wait, they not not just alike...

    Let's face it, Assange doesn't want to face possible criminal charges for his actions and so he is trading on his fame and building this paranoid fantasy that those of you jealous of the US are just buying into.
    There are lots of things to be jealous of the US, such as the constitution, but the justice system is not one of them.

    The problem with the US justice system is that it heavily favours the rich, large corporations and the goverment. Also it doesn't seem to be very well balanced as some people get nothing while others get millions even though they didn't deserve it.

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    Re: Julian Assange will be granted asylum, says official

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Yes Pete, because an enemy combatant captured in a war zone is just like some one charged with a crime and extradited. Oh wait, they not not just alike...
    Yet the "enemy combatant" designation can be put on American citizens, too. It's a catch-all that the government can use to essentially convict someone without any kind of process. Between the NDAA and the Patriot Act, Assange, or you or I, could be designated an enemy combatant and essentially lose all our rights without any recourse.

    Let's face it, Assange doesn't want to face possible criminal charges for his actions and so he is trading on his fame and building this paranoid fantasy that those of you jealous of the US are just buying into.
    You sound like Turtledude.
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    Re: Julian Assange will be granted asylum, says official

    Quote Originally Posted by monkeyloveafight View Post
    Assange has not been subjected to any Swedish judicial procedure since he has not been charged with any crime in Sweden. He is merely wanted for questioning.

    Why can't the Swedes go to England to question him?
    Don't they have a telephone? They could call him.
    Ridiculous. You don't investigate a crime over the telephone.
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    Re: Julian Assange will be granted asylum, says official

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    You mean like the trials on GITMO, and the journalist monitoring of rendition flights and torture? Or called Bush on his Iraq lies in the lead up to the war?

    Or the US court houses that allowed the state killing of mentally handicapped or the innocent?

    The US court system is a joke. It is based on money and those with money can get off easy, where as those with no money go away for life for lesser crimes.

    The problem here is... all the so called "fair" part of the US justice system can be pissed on if he is categorised as an "enemy combatant" and put under military control and we will most likely never see him again.
    Pete EU, the man who only avoids saying seig heil in the morning because a lot of Americans died for his freedom, comes through with more of his anti-American bull****.
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    Re: Julian Assange will be granted asylum, says official

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Yet the "enemy combatant" designation can be put on American citizens, too. It's a catch-all that the government can use to essentially convict someone without any kind of process. Between the NDAA and the Patriot Act, Assange, or you or I, could be designated an enemy combatant and essentially lose all our rights without any recourse.



    You sound like Turtledude.
    And you sound a lot like every other anti-American on this forum.
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