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    Egypt leader Morsi orders army chief Tantawi to resign

    Egyptian President Mohammed Mursi has ordered the retirement of the powerful head of the country's armed forces, Field Marshal Hussein Tantawi, a presidential spokesman has said.


    No explanation has so far been given.
    President Mursi, who was elected in June, is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood.


    Relations between the Brotherhood and the military have been tense since the fall of President Hosni Mubarak last year.



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    Re: Egypt leader Morsi orders army chief Tantawi to resign

    The situation is a power struggle between the military and the Muslim Brotherhood based on the Turkish model where the secular military was completely sidelined over the years by Turkish fundamentalists. In both cases the military were the real power behind the government and maintained a stable secular outlook despite all their faults.

    A further indication of the testing of the Egyptian military's background power, is the fact that Morsi recently was able to replace the independent editors of Egypt most powerful newspapers for Islamists favored by the Brotherhood.

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    Re: Egypt leader Morsi orders army chief Tantawi to resign

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    The situation is a power struggle between the military and the Muslim Brotherhood based on the Turkish model where the secular military was completely sidelined over the years by Turkish fundamentalists. In both cases the military were the real power behind the government and maintained a stable secular outlook despite all their faults.
    And in both cases the military would not have been sidelined in such a way if it did not abuse its powe. Its important that we apply this lessons to our relations with other authoritarian regimes in the region.
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    Re: Egypt leader Morsi orders army chief Tantawi to resign

    Mya, a link to the source of 'independent' vs brotherhood editors please.....

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    Re: Egypt leader Morsi orders army chief Tantawi to resign

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    And in both cases the military would not have been sidelined in such a way if it did not abuse its powe. Its important that we apply this lessons to our relations with other authoritarian regimes in the region.


    Specially in the case of the Egyptian military, there were obviously issues regarding abuse of power, but if you wish to discuss the merits of a secular, tainted government against an Islamic one then it's a matter of opinion. I would chose the military secular option which at least gave Egypt stability for many years and I frankly find it doubtful that the Islamists will be able to improve the country's economic situation.

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    Re: Egypt leader Morsi orders army chief Tantawi to resign

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    Specially in the case of the Egyptian military, there were obviously issues regarding abuse of power, but if you wish to discuss the merits of a secular, tainted government against an Islamic one then it's a matter of opinion. I would chose the military secular option which at least gave Egypt stability for many years and I frankly find it doubtful that the Islamists will be able to improve the country's economic situation.
    They certainly can if they want to

    In Turkey, the mildly islamist party currently in power has overseen a strong rise in the Turkish economy, althought the current account deficit is very troubling
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    Re: Egypt leader Morsi orders army chief Tantawi to resign

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    They certainly can if they want to

    In Turkey, the mildly islamist party currently in power has overseen a strong rise in the Turkish economy, althought the current account deficit is very troubling

    But the Egyptian economy is inherently weaker than the Turkish one, irrespective of their governments. No doubt the Turkish economy was helped by decades of competitive secular government.

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    Re: Egypt leader Morsi orders army chief Tantawi to resign

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    But the Egyptian economy is inherently weaker than the Turkish one, irrespective of their governments. No doubt the Turkish economy was helped by decades of competitive secular government.
    The Egyptian economy is a fair bit behind that of the Turkish one, but that means quick gains are easier to be made. Egypt has gas reserves, plentiful water if they improved irrigation. If they actuall start to educate the population, they could become a manufacturing base in the region.

    If secular governments are reason for economic gains then Egypt should have advanced over the last 30 years rather then stagnate
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    Re: Egypt leader Morsi orders army chief Tantawi to resign

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    Specially in the case of the Egyptian military, there were obviously issues regarding abuse of power, but if you wish to discuss the merits of a secular, tainted government against an Islamic one then it's a matter of opinion. I would chose the military secular option which at least gave Egypt stability for many years and I frankly find it doubtful that the Islamists will be able to improve the country's economic situation.
    Egypt will be Iran in a few years. Except that it seems that Iran may possess a much more educated population.

    Let's remember that just after the attacks last week, there were protests against israel in this backward nation, which is stockpiled with billions in American military equipment.

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    Re: Egypt leader Morsi orders army chief Tantawi to resign

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    The Egyptian economy is a fair bit behind that of the Turkish one, but that means quick gains are easier to be made. Egypt has gas reserves, plentiful water if they improved irrigation. If they actuall start to educate the population, they could become a manufacturing base in the region.

    If secular governments are reason for economic gains then Egypt should have advanced over the last 30 years rather then stagnate

    We are going in circles here, but to be succinct, the Egyptian economy needs more than a change of government to improve.

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