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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    If a school allowed lesbians to use the peephole but banned you for the same behavior, it would be a title IX violation. That doesn't change the fact that discrimination based on pregnancy is most definitely a title IX violation.
    This is silly because lesbians would be in the women’s’ locker room to begin with. I’m all for lesbians in the men’s locker rooms and gay men in the girls locker rooms because I’m tired of getting zoomed and would prefer to do the zooming myself.

    It has nothing to do with Title IX; it's just a weak attempt by the teachers unions and their supporters to bully private schools and charter schools.

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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

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    School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens | Fox News
    US School Forces Pregnancy Tests On Girls, Excluding Those Who Are Pregnant Or Refuse
    Get Tested Or Get Out: School Forces Pregnancy Tests on Girls, Kicks out Students Who Refuse or are Pregnant


    Wow, this is terrible. It's a blatant violation of Title IX and it's gender discrimination, pure and simple. And it's made worse by the fact that this is a PUBLIC charter school in Louisiana.
    It's Louisiana, what do you expect, they're not the brightest bulbs in the box, look who they have as governor. They'll probably get sued by the ACLU, and lose.



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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

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    You have decided this is about “gender discrimination” because only women can get pregnant. Title IX doesn't apply here because discrimination against all women isn't occurring, only discrimination against an act of irresponsible behavior. If there was any way for the school to determine who the father was, I’m certain the school would expel the father as well.
    In the story, there is no mention of any such policy mandating paternity tests and expelling the father. "You're certain" of it? On what basis? Furthermore, the policy seems to only apply to girls who are pregnant, not girls who have children. This leads me to believe that it *is* specifically about gender. Additionally, the school has no business discriminating on the basis of "irresponsible behavior" in the first place, if said behavior occurred outside of school and has nothing to do with school.

    And then, of course, there is the issue of an unlawful search and seizure. The government has no business demanding you take a pregnancy test; pregnancy isn't illegal, and even if it was, they'd have to get a warrant.
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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    This is silly because lesbians would be in the women’s’ locker room to begin with. I’m all for lesbians in the men’s locker rooms and gay men in the girls locker rooms because I’m tired of getting zoomed and would prefer to do the zooming myself.
    Thank you for clarifying that you're a misogynist, in case there was any doubt when you started defending this school's actions.

    It has nothing to do with Title IX; it's just a weak attempt by the teachers unions and their supporters to bully private schools and charter schools.
    I don't know where in the world you came to that conclusion, other than the fact that you saw "charter school" in the story and immediately started foaming at the mouth. I don't even see any mention of a teacher's union or a private school anywhere in this story, nor would this kind of policy be any more acceptable at a traditional public school.
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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    This is silly because lesbians would be in the women’s’ locker room to begin with. I’m all for lesbians in the men’s locker rooms and gay men in the girls locker rooms because I’m tired of getting zoomed and would prefer to do the zooming myself.
    You make up a ridiculous scenario you get a ridiculous (but legally correct) answer.


    You have decided this is about “gender discrimination” because only women can get pregnant. Title IX doesn't apply here because discrimination against all women isn't occurring, only discrimination against an act of irresponsible behavior. If there was any way for the school to determine who the father was, I’m certain the school would expel the father as well.
    Title IX absolutely prevents discrimination based on pregnancy. The Chipman v. Grant County School case provides a good example.

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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    In the story, there is no mention of any such policy mandating paternity tests and expelling the father. "You're certain" of it? On what basis? Furthermore, the policy seems to only apply to girls who are pregnant, not girls who have children. This leads me to believe that it *is* specifically about gender. Additionally, the school has no business discriminating on the basis of "irresponsible behavior" in the first place, if said behavior occurred outside of school and has nothing to do with school.

    And then, of course, there is the issue of an unlawful search and seizure. The government has no business demanding you take a pregnancy test; pregnancy isn't illegal, and even if it was, they'd have to get a warrant.
    Girls are a gender. Girls who are/do something aren’t a gender but an action or a result.... it isn't a gender issue. An action or result is required and that eliminates evoking Title IX. Is that so difficult to comprehend?Girls is a gender. Girls who are/do.... isn't a gender. Is that so difficult to comprehend?

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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

    This is outrageous and will never be upheld by a federal court.

    I mean, wtf is next? Strip-and-cavity search females to determine if they are menstruating and allowed to be excused from certain sports activities? Why not just strip all females as they walk in the school's front door, poke a gloved finger "up there", make them pee on a stick, then hand their clothes back to them and drag the next naked girl in line?

    A blatantly unconstitutional breach of privacy rights, and complete discrimination against females. It pisses me off that there are misogynistic troglydytes in charge of educating our children who would even think of such an abhorrant policy, let alone implement one.

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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    Girls are a gender. Girls who are/do something aren’t a gender but an action or a result.... it isn't a gender issue. An action or result is required and that eliminates evoking Title IX. Is that so difficult to comprehend?Girls is a gender. Girls who are/do.... isn't a gender. Is that so difficult to comprehend?
    This has a disparate impact on females, since no effort is apparently being made to mandate paternity tests (at least not that's mentioned in the story) and expel the father. And even if there was, it is not immediately obvious from appearances who the father is whereas a pregnancy is obvious. Since this has a disparate impact on women, it is a violation of Title IX. Furthermore, mandating a pregnancy test constitutes an unlawful search and seizure, as the school does not have a warrant and pregnancy is not illegal.
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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    A blatantly unconstitutional breach of privacy rights, and complete discrimination against females. It pisses me off that there are misogynistic troglydytes in charge of educating our children who would even think of such an abhorrant policy, let alone implement one.
    My first thought on reading this story: "Banning girls from attending school is the kind of thing that the Taliban does."
    My second thought on reading this story: "There will be misogynists on this forum who rush to the defense of the school."
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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

    they should study lesson rather than get involved in unprotected sex as teens

    but of course they shouldnt be fired from schools..

    or their boyfriends should get fired too
    Last edited by Medusa; 08-07-12 at 10:40 PM.
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