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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    Well, OMFG, teaching abstinence is not working, and it appears that those that are criticizing the need for Comprehensive Sex Education are the ones that are making assumptions of what is and isn't happening. For your information, NC was teaching abstinence only, up until just recently, but thanks to an informed politician and member of the Democratic Party, Governor Perdue, parents will now be able to choose. So, unless you are one of the deluded ones that thinks that teaching abstinence is working well, you're right, that is what has been happening in your state.


    Governor Bev Perdue has signed a uniquely sensible sexuality education bill enabling parents to decide the type of education their children will receive in public school. The measure, known as the Healthy Youth Act, is already being viewed as model legislation in states throughout the country.
    This law requires all NC public schools to offer abstinence-based, comprehensive sex education to 7th through 9th graders. Previously, NC public schools were only required to offer abstinence only until marriage education.

    LANDMARK SEX-ED LAW FOR NORTH CAROLINA! - Planned Parenthood - Health Systems


    In 1995 Rep. Robin Hayes introduced a bill requiring that public schools in North Carolina teach an abstinence-only sex education curriculum. Despite heated debates, both the house and the senate passed the bill. As a result, since the 1996-97 academic year, over 100 out of the 117 school systems in North Carolina have taught abstinence-only until marriage in their healthy living/sex education courses.
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    You are looking at what politicians are claiming is happening based upon their own agendas.

    I actually lived it......And there was plenty in the curriculum about safe sex.

    So your quotes and links mean nothing, since they are just political grandstanding by both political parties that has absolutely no weight on what was ACTUALLY going on in those classrooms.
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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens[W:150]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post

    Wow, this is terrible. It's a blatant violation of Title IX and it's gender discrimination, pure and simple. And it's made worse by the fact that this is a PUBLIC charter school in Louisiana.
    I'm not so sure. Attendance at a charter school is a privilege, not a right. If these rules were in place at the time the student was admitted, and the student's parent(s) knowingly signed up for such rules, then they are not necessarily discriminatory nor a violation of any constitutional right.

    Recall that HIGHER STANDARDS are the raison d'Ítre for charter schools.
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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Students lose many constitutional rights in public schools, one that comes to mind is freedom of speech. I believe the rationale is disruptive. I imagine a teenager walking around with a big fat belly would be disruptive, or at least used as a rationale for what constitutes disruption.

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    Using that rationale (and I use the term lightly), I suppose obese children are next on the list of those who are to be removed from educational facilities?

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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens[W:150]

    Quote Originally Posted by Sig View Post
    I'm not so sure. Attendance at a charter school is a privilege, not a right. If these rules were in place at the time the student was admitted, and the student's parent(s) knowingly signed up for such rules, then they are not necessarily discriminatory nor a violation of any constitutional right.

    Recall that HIGHER STANDARDS are the raison d'Ítre for charter schools.
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    The U.S. Department of Education (ED), Office for Civil Rights (OCR) enforces a number of civil rights laws that apply to public schools, including charter schools. These laws include: Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (Title VI), which prohibits discrimination on the basis of race, color, or national origin; Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972 (Title IX), which prohibits discrimination on the basis of sex in education programs
    It seems that you, like many people in this thread, have confused the law with your personal opinion.

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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    You are looking at what politicians are claiming is happening based upon their own agendas.
    I am looking at what laws have been passed. Perhaps you are the one that is looking at what your politicians are claiming instead of looking at facts.


    I actually lived it......And there was plenty in the curriculum about safe sex.
    Oh, and you speak for all the schools in all the states? You can attest to the fact that your experience is universal? Sure you can.

    So your quotes and links mean nothing, since they are just political grandstanding by both political parties that has absolutely no weight on what was ACTUALLY going on in those classrooms.
    Maybe what you are trying to say is that what is going on in the classrooms (teaching abstinence) has no weight on what is ACTUALLY going on in real life. If they were actually teaching comprehensive sex education we wouldn't have such a high rate of teenage pregnancies. Trying to minimize the problem to accommodate your party's policies is not something new. And now, Louisiana is compounding the problem by taking these already uninformed students out of the arena where they could possibly learn more and possibly creating more people that will need to be on welfare. Nice job.



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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens[W:150]

    Quote Originally Posted by Sig View Post
    I'm not so sure. Attendance at a charter school is a privilege, not a right. If these rules were in place at the time the student was admitted, and the student's parent(s) knowingly signed up for such rules, then they are not necessarily discriminatory nor a violation of any constitutional right.

    Recall that HIGHER STANDARDS are the raison d'Ítre for charter schools.
    Your understanding of charter schools is amiss. By removing these students from the classroom not only are they discriminating, they are not improving the student's achievements.

    Charter schools are independent public schools allowed freedom to be more innovative, while being held accountable for improved student achievement. They foster a partnership between parents, teachers and students to create an environment in which parents can be more involved, teachers are given the freedom to innovate and students are provided the structure they need to learn, with all three held accountable for improved student achievement.


    What makes charter schools public schools?


    Public charter schools are intended to improve our nationís public school system. Charter schools are public schools because, while they operate independently of the school district, they are:
    • tuition-free and open to every student who wishes to enroll
    • non-sectarian, and do not discriminate on any basis
    • publicly funded by local, state and federal tax dollars based on enrollment, like other public schools
    • held accountable to state and federal academic standards


    What are charter schools?



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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens[W:150]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens | Fox News
    US School Forces Pregnancy Tests On Girls, Excluding Those Who Are Pregnant Or Refuse
    Get Tested Or Get Out: School Forces Pregnancy Tests on Girls, Kicks out Students Who Refuse or are Pregnant


    Wow, this is terrible. It's a blatant violation of Title IX and it's gender discrimination, pure and simple. And it's made worse by the fact that this is a PUBLIC charter school in Louisiana.
    I don't see anything wrong with this.
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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens[W:150]

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    I don't see anything wrong with this.
    And? We're supposed to go by what you see or don't see? Who died and left you in charge of the law?



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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens[W:150]

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    And? We're supposed to go by what you see or don't see? Who died and left you in charge of the law?
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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    I am looking at what laws have been passed. Perhaps you are the one that is looking at what your politicians are claiming instead of looking at facts.


    Oh, and you speak for all the schools in all the states? You can attest to the fact that your experience is universal? Sure you can.


    Maybe what you are trying to say is that what is going on in the classrooms (teaching abstinence) has no weight on what is ACTUALLY going on in real life. If they were actually teaching comprehensive sex education we wouldn't have such a high rate of teenage pregnancies. Trying to minimize the problem to accommodate your party's policies is not something new. And now, Louisiana is compounding the problem by taking these already uninformed students out of the arena where they could possibly learn more and possibly creating more people that will need to be on welfare. Nice job.

    No, I am saying I, nor any of my relatives, nor friends, who went to school in North Carolina during that time, were taught Abstinence only. If you are too politics focused to understand that politicians jabber on about this or that while other **** is really going on despite what they are saying, then sure go about being willfully ignorant.
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