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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    You are right. "Its the law!" after all........ So what if a girl decides that she wants to kill her baby by playing volleyball while pregnant, the school can't do **** about it... **** em.
    This is correct. The law doesn't mince words or leave much room for interpretation: No school receiving government funds shall discriminate on the basis of pregnancy, including for extracurricular activities. What part of that is difficult to understand? If you have a problem with the law, take it up with Congress rather than claiming that the school has a blank check to violate the law because...umm...you want them to.

    In any case, your volleyball example is just an asinine hypothetical (as though there are lots of would-be mothers clamoring to play volleyball into their third trimester), and the answer STILL isn't the one you wanted. Now back to the ACTUAL topic of the thread.
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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

    Silence.........................Kandahar.... I think I hear crickets about post 160....
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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

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    Silence.........................Kandahar.... I think I hear crickets about post 160....
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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I'm not going to get into a debate with you over the frequency of rape or the frequency of false rape claims, because I'll get another infraction telling you what I think of your opinion and because it's not the subject of this thread.
    Fair enough...... I know how that goes........
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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    I agree that discrimination is wrong for things that a person cannot control. However, you can control whether or not you get pregnant for the most part.
    Yes, most adults and some mature teen agers can, but most teenagers don't think it can happen to them, and that it doesn't happen the first time! You are trying to say that teenagers are responsible and wise like adults, but they are not. That is why we need sex education. Just telling them ala Palin that they should abstain isn't going to cut it. It didn't work with her own daughter, and she expects it to work with kids, some who have no parental guidance. Give me a break.



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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    Yes, most adults and some mature teen agers can, but most teenagers don't think it can happen to them, and that it doesn't happen the first time! You are trying to say that teenagers are responsible and wise like adults, but they are not. That is why we need sex education. Just telling them ala Palin that they should abstain isn't going to cut it. It didn't work with her own daughter, and she expects it to work with kids, some who have no parental guidance. Give me a break.
    Are you saying the teenagers are not receiving sex education now?

    I think all schools have sex education as part of their regular teachings.

    Are there any schools that do not?

    Why do we try to pretend that teenagers having sex is natural, in that it is biological, and that is a very fast train to try to stop.

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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Are you saying the teenagers are not receiving sex education now?

    I think all schools have sex education as part of their regular teachings.

    Are there any schools that do not?

    Why do we try to pretend that teenagers having sex is natural, in that it is biological, and that is a very fast train to try to stop.
    I grew up in a North Carolina Farming Community (Bible Belt)...... I had Sex Education in my Middle and High School 10-15 years ago.

    So I find this "OMFG THEY NEED SEX EDUCATION!!!" bandwagon behind the times......... spouted by people making assumptions of what is and isn't happening.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    If the pregnant student will miss time from the classes, and thus likely fail anyway, then what is the harm? This is ONLY policy at the charter school that has a waiting list of those wanting to get into it. Limitted resources can (and should) be allocated to those that will get the most advantage from them. If this discourages teen pregnancy then NO harm is done from it. Priority ONE is to complete school, then start a "family" - social and public policy should reenforce that TRUTH and not pretend it is just peachy for kids to have babies before completing high school.
    I think the point here is invasion of privacy.

    There are other medical issues that can cause a student to miss classes. Should they test every student for leukemia and kick out the kids that have it? Heck, a kids breaks their leg and they're out of gym class for a few weeks.


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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Are you saying the teenagers are not receiving sex education now?
    Texas promotes abstinence only in schools, thanks to the influx of Republicans in state legislature. Alaska, also due to Republican influence has abandoned sex education. Louisiana, another red state, also prefers teaching abstinence. I'm sure that other states where Republicans rule, it's the same case. What a joke. I guess you can't fix stupid.

    Not only has Texas received more federal abstinence-only dollars than any other state (by a significant margin1), in recent years abstinence-only programs have enjoyed a virtual monopoly over sex education instruction in Texas public school classrooms. An earlier study by the Texas Freedom Network Education Fund (TFNEF) documented that during the 2007-08 school year, fully 94 percent of Texas districts employed a strict abstinence-only message that omitted references to or discouraged use of condoms or other forms of contraception.2
    http://www.tfn.org/site/DocServer/Re...pdf?docID=2941

    On April 20, The Catholic Anchor, the newspaper of the Archdiocese of Anchorage, published a story about a grant that the Alaska Department of Health and Social Services applied for and was to receive to provide comprehensive sex education in certain educational settings. Three days later, according to the paper, the state withdrew support of the program at the direction of Gov. Sean Parnell and spurned the approximately $600,000 the state would have received over five years for the program. The program that was to be used, entitled "Making Proud Choices!" focuses on condoms, rather than on abstinence-based curriculum. The program would have been used for youth in five correctional and behavioral facilities and alternative high schools across the state. According to its website, "Making Proud Choices!" is designed for "Young African-American, Hispanic and White adolescents, ages 11-13 Specifically, this curriculum emphasizes that they can reduce their risk for STDs, HIV, and pregnancy by using a condom, if they choose to have sex," the website says.
    Alaska Gov. Sean Parnell rejects sex education funds | Alaska Dispatch

    Rep. Pat Smith, D-Baton Rouge, came armed with statistics reflecting that Louisiana residents rank in the top five nationally for rates of gonorrhea, syphilis, Chlamydia, with teens comprising a majority of new cases. She mentioned the commonplace of teen pregnancy. But it did nothing to win support for her House Bill 529 to require local public school districts to teach comprehensive sex education as a part of the health curriculum. By a vote of 23-67, the House opted to keep current law that makes sex education optional for each school district and concentrates the lessons on abstinence. Smith said 24 of 70 local districts participate. Smith's bill, which was opposed by Gov. Bobby Jindal, the Louisiana Conference of Catholic Bishops and the Louisiana Family Forum, would have required the state to approve age-appropriate curriculum for grades 4-12, the same levels that are included in the existing optional curriculum.
    House says no to teaching comprehensive sex education in Louisiana public schools | NOLA.com
    I think all schools have sex education as part of their regular teachings.
    Ya' think? With all the teen pregnancies you would think these Republicans would figure out that abstinence is not working.

    Are there any schools that do not?
    I guess you can google other states, but I'm sure that where Reps rule, you're going to find that they push abstinence, as if it works.

    Why do we try to pretend that teenagers having sex is natural, in that it is biological, and that is a very fast train to try to stop.
    Because they bury their heads in the sand and pretend that everything is honky dory and that teenagers if told not to have sex will abide by it!



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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    I grew up in a North Carolina Farming Community (Bible Belt)...... I had Sex Education in my Middle and High School 10-15 years ago.

    So I find this "OMFG THEY NEED SEX EDUCATION!!!" bandwagon behind the times......... spouted by people making assumptions of what is and isn't happening.

    Well, OMFG, teaching abstinence is not working, and it appears that those that are criticizing the need for Comprehensive Sex Education are the ones that are making assumptions of what is and isn't happening. For your information, NC was teaching abstinence only, up until just recently, but thanks to an informed politician and member of the Democratic Party, Governor Perdue, parents will now be able to choose. So, unless you are one of the deluded ones that thinks that teaching abstinence is working well, you're right, that is what has been happening in your state.


    Governor Bev Perdue has signed a uniquely sensible sexuality education bill enabling parents to decide the type of education their children will receive in public school. The measure, known as the Healthy Youth Act, is already being viewed as model legislation in states throughout the country.
    This law requires all NC public schools to offer abstinence-based, comprehensive sex education to 7th through 9th graders. Previously, NC public schools were only required to offer abstinence only until marriage education.

    LANDMARK SEX-ED LAW FOR NORTH CAROLINA! - Planned Parenthood - Health Systems


    In 1995 Rep. Robin Hayes introduced a bill requiring that public schools in North Carolina teach an abstinence-only sex education curriculum. Despite heated debates, both the house and the senate passed the bill. As a result, since the 1996-97 academic year, over 100 out of the 117 school systems in North Carolina have taught abstinence-only until marriage in their healthy living/sex education courses.
    Sociation Today Spring 2006



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