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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Delay is still a sort of reduction.
    not really. they get the same education, just 9 mos later.

    Kids that get cancer would be missing a lot of schools as well. If the justification is "they'll probably miss a lot of school" why would it not apply there as well?
    Kids dont make decisions that cause cancer. Big difference.

    Great, we should ban cancer patients from attending school as well until they're in full remission.
    if you want to discuss it with me can we try to refrain from sarcastically putting words in my mouth. if you just want to talk about it with like minded people you and whoever else can just IM each other and stroke each others ego's or whatever you want to do. however if you want to discuss this like grown up who have a difference of opinion we can continue.
    And in this case it is.

    A girl and a boy caused a pregnancy.

    The girl is being searched out and punished.

    There's no search or action towards the boy what so ever.

    Being female is not a choice.
    getting pregnant is. and if a boy were somehow pregnant i am sure the school would take similar action. As I explained before the boy would not have the physical illness associated with pregnancy nor the same dr appointments neccasarily. It is a fairly safe to assume a pregnant female will miss school, and a good amount of school with being sick, dr appts, delivery, recovery and more. Couple that with learning how to raise a child and taking care of herself and her baby she is not going to be focused too much on her school work. She is not going to perform at the level the school may require.
    Since we seem to be functioning off the notion that the school is trying to promote negative consequences for an action they deem bad...

    So sex that causes pregnancy....that's fine. But actually BEING pregnant...THAT needs to be punished.

    **** all you want kids, especially you boys, because there's no consequences for you. But you female, if you actually get pregnant, YOU'RE going to get punished. The guy that was just as instrumental in knocking you up....he doesn't have a baby in his belly so hey, high five kid, no problems for you!
    you are once again twisting something i said into some wierd delusion you seem to have. I have never once even slighly indicated that the school is in any way endorsing sex. That is just ignorance and that type of debating isnt going to get you anywhere.

    So you think teenagers in high school that get pregnant are all getting it from over aged individuals? Is that what you're saying? So instead of unequally applying even handed punishment of this to two school aged kids, they're actually just punishing the girl for being technically raped under the law under your reasoning while still not caring to try and gain knowledge of who the guy is? That's BETTER?
    how is that even remotely close to anything i said? did you accidently quote me here and reply to someone else?
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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    So you think okay if a few rape victims get hurt as long as you are able to punish the tramps who sleep around? You are a perfect reminder of why title IX exists, because its the only thing standing between the most vulnerable members of society and people like you.
    LOL.... First you put words in my mouth that I never said, making an assumption...

    Then you go on to judge me based upon your own preconceived notion of what you think I mean by reminding people that jumping to point at rape is a way of avoiding the conversation.


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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Irrelevant. Title IX specifically says you can't assign a student to a different program based on their pregnancy unless they volunteer for it:

    (b) Pregnancy and related conditions. (1) A recipient shall not discriminate against any student, or exclude any student from its education program or activity, including any class or extracurricular activity, on the basis of such student's pregnancy, childbirth, false pregnancy, termination of pregnancy or recovery therefrom, unless the student requests voluntarily to participate in a separate portion of the program or activity of the recipient.



    The text of the law isn't very ambiguous about it: Schools can't exclude students from extracurricular activities based on pregnancy.

    You are right. "Its the law!" after all........ So what if a girl decides that she wants to kill her baby by playing volleyball while pregnant, the school can't do **** about it... **** em.
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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Are you really a ****ing police officer? You disgust me.
    And the personal attacks commence!!!!

    You apparently are incapable of understanding the words that are coming out of my mouth.

    Changing the subject from irresponsibility (vast majority of teen pregnancy) to rape (extremely seldom) is a way to avoid having to have a discussion about, and even acknowleging the fact that irresponsible sex occurs and is the root cause of teen pregnancy.

    So what exactly are you "disgusted" about? Im talking about the DISCUSSION of the problems. Not the actual occurrence of rape....

    If you can't seem to figure THAT out...... God help you.
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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    So the guy tagging a girl in high school that would have slept with 7 or 8 guys in such a time span, and doing so without a condom, isn't acting irresponsible also? Because this rule doesn't seem to do a damn thing to discourage them. Actually, it seems like it rewards them "Hey, if you **** a girl and she gets knocked up you don't have to worry about her being clingy at school due to it because the school will just boot her out. SCORE!"
    AGAIN. I don't recall having claimed that.

    Everyone on this thread does know how to read a post without putting words in people's mouths yes/no???

    Why are you working so hard to throw me into a position I never put myself in?
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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Just about an estimated 80,000 to 100,000 times a year. About 1 in every 1500 women each year. While perhaps not gigantic, to give it some reference....

    That's about 6 times the number of murders in the U.S. That's about 9 times more deaths due to drunk driving, and 3 times the number of people killed in auto accidents each year.

    Are we talking reports or convictions??

    Do you realize how many REPORTS are completely false?

    You realize rape claims are used to get teens out of trouble with their parents? You realize rape claims are used by prostitutes to get back at people who skipped the bill?

    Out of 30 or so rape reports I've taken, I've probably taken about 2 genuine reports.
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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Dyed hair can be a distraction...shall we ban kids who come to school with that. What about Goth Clothes...that can be a distraction too.
    I know this is going off topic a little bit, but this has already started to happen. The K-12 schools in my area have a rule that if a kid comes in with dyed hair (i.e. unatural hair color) they will be sent home until it is corrected to the schools satisfaction.

    Also, many schools have dress codes or even uniforms now so they do regulate "Goth Clothing" and it is legal.

    The reason they give for banning these and doing the dress codes is to prevent unecessary "distractions" as they put it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Wearing letterman jackets on game day can cause distraction as kids focus on the game instead.
    If it goes against the schools dress code rules, it can be enforced in such a manner though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Again. The question is this. WHAT is the issue here? Are you trying to discourage underage sex? Are you trying to discourage teen pregnancy? Or are you trying to literally discourage the PHYSICAL STATE of Pregnancy?
    What I'm getting from all of this, is that the school wants to curb pregnancies and sex but they are specifically punishing the female students to accomplish this and that is what I see is wrong.
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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    So what exactly are you "disgusted" about?
    I can't answer your question or else I'll get another infraction. Suffice it to say that police officers who actually believe stuff like the following don't do any favors to a profession that already struggles with a public perception of being bigoted and uncaring:

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Are we talking reports or convictions??

    Do you realize how many REPORTS are completely false?

    You realize rape claims are used to get teens out of trouble with their parents? You realize rape claims are used by prostitutes to get back at people who skipped the bill?

    Out of 30 or so rape reports I've taken, I've probably taken about 2 genuine reports.
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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I can't answer your question or else I'll get another infraction. Suffice it to say that police officers who actually believe stuff like the following don't do any favors to a profession that already struggles with a public perception of being bigoted and uncaring:
    Its not a belief. it is a fact that far more teens get pregnant out of irresponsibility than rape.
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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I can't answer your question or else I'll get another infraction. Suffice it to say that police officers who actually believe stuff like the following don't do any favors to a profession that already struggles with a public perception of being bigoted and uncaring:
    Because we deal with the truth?
    Thats our job isn't it? To find out the truth?

    And now you want to get pissed because we find out that so many rapes are fake??? So we get paid to investigate... and then when we have done this... we are hated for what we find out because what we found out is "insensitive"???

    Give me a ****ing break.


    Im not making assumptions here...... Countless teens I have done rape reports with have later ADMITTED to falsifying the report because Daddy would be pissed if she actually had sex willingly.

    Its not a "BELIEF"... its ****ing reality. Get out of your widdle bubble and learn what the real non-Politically Correct world is like.
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