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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

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    Ah. Then I can safely presume that you disagree with SCOTUS in Brown v. Board of Education?
    I fail to see the correlation.........
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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Wow. Its obvious you missed the whole point of GPS_Flex's post.

    He was talking about tramps who don't know who the baby's father is because they have slept with 6 or 7 different guys within the appropriate period of time to allow pregnancy.

    Of course, when such a topic is brought up... the first thing the hand-wringers start crying about is WHAT ABOUT RAPE !! RAPE!! Because that happens so ****ing often

    Bringing up rape as the defense to irresponsibility is tossing the issue of irresponsibility aside because nobody wants to face the fact that teens and even adults are WAYYYY to irresponsible about sex.... in fact, irresponsible sex is culturally encouraged unfortunately.
    So you think okay if a few rape victims get hurt as long as you are able to punish the tramps who sleep around? You are a perfect reminder of why title IX exists, because its the only thing standing between the most vulnerable members of society and people like you.
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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Ahem... They weren't forced to ask for special charter school assignment... *cough cough cough*.
    Irrelevant. Title IX specifically says you can't assign a student to a different program based on their pregnancy unless they volunteer for it:

    (b) Pregnancy and related conditions. (1) A recipient shall not discriminate against any student, or exclude any student from its education program or activity, including any class or extracurricular activity, on the basis of such student's pregnancy, childbirth, false pregnancy, termination of pregnancy or recovery therefrom, unless the student requests voluntarily to participate in a separate portion of the program or activity of the recipient.

    So according to this its wrong for a school to deny a pregnant female a spot on the volleyball team due to her pregnancy?

    Obviously, there are some things that don't fall under this.....
    The text of the law isn't very ambiguous about it: Schools can't exclude students from extracurricular activities based on pregnancy.
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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Wow. Its obvious you missed the whole point of GPS_Flex's post.

    He was talking about tramps who don't know who the baby's father is because they have slept with 6 or 7 different guys within the appropriate period of time to allow pregnancy.

    Of course, when such a topic is brought up... the first thing the hand-wringers start crying about is WHAT ABOUT RAPE !! RAPE!! Because that happens so ****ing often
    Are you really a ****ing police officer? You disgust me.
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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Its not reduction, more of a delay.
    Delay is still a sort of reduction.

    I think home and online learning can be just as good and for some people better as far as book smarts and learning. However there is a social aspect of school that is important to development as well.
    Agree on the social aspect.

    That child isnt going to missing school for sickness, cramps, and other pregnancy related things. Dr appts, giving birth recovery, ect. or not to the same extent.
    Kids that get cancer would be missing a lot of schools as well. If the justification is "they'll probably miss a lot of school" why would it not apply there as well?

    Additionally...would they NOT miss the school classes at home due to sickness, cramps, other pregnancy related things potentially? If they're not healthy enough to go to school, do you think they'll be doing the work at home?

    Physically being there.
    Great, we should ban cancer patients from attending school as well until they're in full remission.

    interupting classes, partnered projects, additional accomodations, heightened risks.
    Again...interupting class is an assumption. Inability to do partnered projects is an assumption and isn't more "resources", what "heightend risks" and how does that apply to resources?

    As I said before, discrimination should be you being treated differently because of something beyond your control. Pregnancy is within a persons control.
    And in this case it is.

    A girl and a boy caused a pregnancy.

    The girl is being searched out and punished.

    There's no search or action towards the boy what so ever.

    Being female is not a choice.

    They are not targeting sex. They are targeting pregnancy which is not possible for a man.
    Since we seem to be functioning off the notion that the school is trying to promote negative consequences for an action they deem bad...

    So sex that causes pregnancy....that's fine. But actually BEING pregnant...THAT needs to be punished.

    **** all you want kids, especially you boys, because there's no consequences for you. But you female, if you actually get pregnant, YOU'RE going to get punished. The guy that was just as instrumental in knocking you up....he doesn't have a baby in his belly so hey, high five kid, no problems for you!

    Yes, but I dont believe it to be happening at the high school level.
    So you think teenagers in high school that get pregnant are all getting it from over aged individuals? Is that what you're saying? So instead of unequally applying even handed punishment of this to two school aged kids, they're actually just punishing the girl for being technically raped under the law under your reasoning while still not caring to try and gain knowledge of who the guy is? That's BETTER?

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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Students lose many constitutional rights in public schools, one that comes to mind is freedom of speech. I believe the rationale is disruptive. I imagine a teenager walking around with a big fat belly would be disruptive, or at least used as a rationale for what constitutes disruption.

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    Dyed hair can be a distraction...shall we ban kids who come to school with that. What about Goth Clothes...that can be a distraction too. Wearing letterman jackets on game day can cause distraction as kids focus on the game instead. Your basis for violating constitutional law is that it's causing a disruption, yet with how inconsistent that standard would be it hardly seems like a legitimate reasoning.

    Again. The question is this. WHAT is the issue here? Are you trying to discourage underage sex? Are you trying to discourage teen pregnancy? Or are you trying to literally discourage the PHYSICAL STATE of Pregnancy?

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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Bringing up rape as the defense to irresponsibility is tossing the issue of irresponsibility aside because nobody wants to face the fact that teens and even adults are WAYYYY to irresponsible about sex.
    So the guy tagging a girl in high school that would have slept with 7 or 8 guys in such a time span, and doing so without a condom, isn't acting irresponsible also? Because this rule doesn't seem to do a damn thing to discourage them. Actually, it seems like it rewards them "Hey, if you **** a girl and she gets knocked up you don't have to worry about her being clingy at school due to it because the school will just boot her out. SCORE!"

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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Are you really a ****ing police officer? You disgust me.
    You disgust me by supporting the "right" to be irresponsible and a burden to others. Who needs a sex ed class to know the female body carries the child? "Mommy, where do babies come from?" Better yet, what kind of parent doesn't warn their teenage daughter about the consequences of unplanned pregnancy? I have no problem with punishing the father by making them do the home study together to avoid having a school pimp with 3 kids. This should serve as a deterrent, as well as reduce distractions and negative examples within the school.

    I would have volunteered for police service if I wasn't afraid of getting charged with use of excessive force against POS people.
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    Re: School policy forces students to take pregnancy tests, bans pregnant teens

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Because that happens so ****ing often
    Just about an estimated 80,000 to 100,000 times a year. About 1 in every 1500 women each year. While perhaps not gigantic, to give it some reference....

    That's about 6 times the number of murders in the U.S. That's about 9 times more deaths due to drunk driving, and 3 times the number of people killed in auto accidents each year.

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