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The anti-Chick-fil-A protest - Starbucks [W:39]

rocket88 said:
I don't understand what that has to do with Liberalism, on the other hand.
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At the risk of a tsk-tsk from the mods....

I know lots of people of a certain political and social persuasion who exclusively go to Starbucks for the image, not the coffee. The faux-urban hipster feel is attractive to these certain individuals.
 
TheNextEra said:
The prices at Chik-fil-A are not cheap either.
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Aaaaaaand?

Hey...I'm a capitalist. I think they should hold a pro gay marriage rally at their local car dealership. Buy a new house in support of SSM. Protest ChickFilA-buy a minimum of $1000 merchandise at your local mall and get a free rainbow sticker to show how much you care. And of course...the opposition side...they are going to rise up in protest to the protest...and buy more ChickFilA...but they too should buy things in opposition to gay marriage. We can protest our way into prosperity.

What were we protesting again?

Hopefully...for Starbucks bottom line there will at least be a few people that participate in this 'protest'. The kiss in thing was kinda a bust.
 
TheNextEra said:
Then why hasn't it been done? Seems easy and simple enough if the majority want to do it right?
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I dont think it has ever been proposed. I have never voted on it if it has. But ask around to straight people. Ask them if they care if their marriage is called a union at a federal level.
 
TheNextEra said:
Then why hasn't it been done? Seems easy and simple enough if the majority want to do it right?
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He didnt say that the majority supports same sex marriage. The number of states that pass changes to their state constitutions kinda proves that. What he said was the majority of people that support same sex marriage are straight. And that HAS to be kind of a given...right?
 
muciti said:
I dont think it has ever been proposed. I have never voted on it if it has. But ask around to straight people. Ask them if they care if their marriage is called a union at a federal level.
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I wrote in to my congressmen and senator about this several years ago. I have asked around, and many people I know don't want civil unions.
 
VanceMack said:
He didnt say that the majority supports same sex marriage. The number of states that pass changes to their state constitutions kinda proves that. What he said was the majority of people that support same sex marriage are straight. And that HAS to be kind of a given...right?
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No, what he said is the majority support the state getting out of marriage.
 
RadicalModerate said:
In BC's defense...Starbucks coffee is just about the worst in existence.
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No it's not. I'm not exactly defending Starbucks, but it is far from the worst coffee in existence. I've had the worst coffee in existence at a Physics conference once, and I spent the week at Starbucks because of it. Starbucks is not ground shattering, it's not the best out there, but it's not on the bottom either.
 
TheNextEra said:
No, what he said is the majority support the state getting out of marriage.
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I would say that the facts do not support that assertion.
 
Ikari said:
No it's not. I'm not exactly defending Starbucks, but it is far from the worst coffee in existence. I've had the worst coffee in existence at a Physics conference once, and I spent the week at Starbucks because of it. Starbucks is not ground shattering, it's not the best out there, but it's not on the bottom either.
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Hard to judge best or worst because that is a matter of opinion. For the sake of debate I think that the only way to determine "best" is by sales. Starbucks is the best simply because that is the coffee more people drink than any other.
 
muciti said:
Hard to judge best or worst because that is a matter of opinion. For the sake of debate I think that the only way to determine "best" is by sales. Starbucks is the best simply because that is the coffee more people drink than any other.
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No, quite honestly the coffee at CLEO that year is the only coffee in my long history of coffee drinking that I almost instinctively spit out on the first sip. I couldn't finish it. I got a couple of sips in on this horribly brewed, burned crap they tried to pass off as coffee and that was it, I got in line for Starbucks. I can certainly see people saying Starbucks sucks (I myself am not much a fan), particularly compared to local coffee shops and such; but it's not quite the Ultraviolet of coffee.
 
Ikari said:
No, quite honestly the coffee at CLEO that year is the only coffee in my long history of coffee drinking that I almost instinctively spit out on the first sip. I couldn't finish it. I got a couple of sips in on this horribly brewed, burned crap they tried to pass off as coffee and that was it, I got in line for Starbucks. I can certainly see people saying Starbucks sucks (I myself am not much a fan), particularly compared to local coffee shops and such; but it's not quite the Ultraviolet of coffee.
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Starbucks drip coffee is just fine...but thats not where they make their money. They make their money on their fru fru drinks that they charge an arm and a leg for. A venti drip isnt much more than the local convenience store. My business partner goes for the venti white mocha with an extra shot and it costs like 6 bucks...for...a cup of syrup with 3 shots of espresso. Glad she likes it...glad she pays for it out of her pocket.

I hope Starbucks makes a killing for this counterrevolutionary protest. And hey...worst case scenario...Starbucks is USUALLY pretty busy, so it at least will LOOK like lots of people are going there to support 'the cause'.
 
Ikari said:
No, quite honestly the coffee at CLEO that year is the only coffee in my long history of coffee drinking that I almost instinctively spit out on the first sip. I couldn't finish it. I got a couple of sips in on this horribly brewed, burned crap they tried to pass off as coffee and that was it, I got in line for Starbucks. I can certainly see people saying Starbucks sucks (I myself am not much a fan), particularly compared to local coffee shops and such; but it's not quite the Ultraviolet of coffee.
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I have had worse than Starbucks. At a previous job, I started putting sugar in the coffee I got there, and I usually take it black (like my men -- rimshot). There were a lot of Somalians and Ethiopians working there, so I wonder if that had something to do with it.
 
RadicalModerate said:
At the risk of a tsk-tsk from the mods....

I know lots of people of a certain political and social persuasion who exclusively go to Starbucks for the image, not the coffee. The faux-urban hipster feel is attractive to these certain individuals.
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I've met a few hipsters with conservative politics...I've seen way too many hipsters.
 
Ikari said:
No it's not. I'm not exactly defending Starbucks, but it is far from the worst coffee in existence. I've had the worst coffee in existence at a Physics conference once, and I spent the week at Starbucks because of it. Starbucks is not ground shattering, it's not the best out there, but it's not on the bottom either.
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I mean sure, there's worse coffee than Starbucks, if you count freeze dried crystals or stuff like that. I mean in terms of being a self-proclaimed "coffee shop" with actual coffee making equipment behind the bar, it's the worst. I guess I'm not counting gas station or airport coffee because that's just something they give you to kill time with. No one goes there saying, "Boy I need a cup of real joe...let's go to Diamond Shamrock."

The only reason people drink Starbucks is because they put endless amounts of sugar, cream, ice, flavored syrups and toppings on it. I only drink drip coffee with a little 1/2 'n' 1/2 in it. I've been to many a coffee shop. Starbucks is the worst "coffee shop" coffee I've had. Burnt, overly bitter, not fresh. SB's clearly focuses on making drinks for the teenage hipster girl crowd; whipped cream and sugary mocha-flavored syrup and soymilk and all the jazz with about the equivalent of a half a cup of actual coffee.

Actually, a big part of the reason is that Starbucks over-roast the coffee beans. Hence people around where I live call the "Charbucks", because the coffee tastes charred. Over roasting the beans is usually done on purpose to mask the cheapness and lower quality of the beans. Also, many people think it must be stronger if the coffee tastes "dark."

And yes they do serve burnt coffee that's been left on a heating element for over 30 minutes. You know, the coffee that's in the urn on the 'warming' pad. All you taste is the harsh bitterness left because all the rich coffee oils have been evaporated away (which is what gives fresh coffee it's richer flavor).
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RadicalModerate said:
I mean sure, there's worse coffee than Starbucks, if you count freeze dried crystals or stuff like that. I mean in terms of being a self-proclaimed "coffee shop" with actual coffee making equipment behind the bar, it's the worst. I guess I'm not counting gas station or airport coffee because that's just something they give you to kill time with. No one goes there saying, "Boy I need a cup of real joe...let's go to Diamond Shamrock."

The only reason people drink Starbucks is because they put endless amounts of sugar, cream, ice, flavored syrups and toppings on it. I only drink drip coffee with a little 1/2 'n' 1/2 in it. I've been to many a coffee shop. Starbucks is the worst "coffee shop" coffee I've had. Burnt, overly bitter, not fresh. SB's clearly focuses on making drinks for the teenage hipster girl crowd; whipped cream and sugary mocha-flavored syrup and soymilk and all the jazz with about the equivalent of a half a cup of actual coffee.
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Here, Dunkin Donuts is (for some reasoned) considered a coffee shop and it's terrible. When I go to Starbucks, I tend to get a latte, I like them. I don't use any of the flavors, just coffee and milk (for normal coffee I won't put milk in it).
 
Ikari said:
Here, Dunkin Donuts is (for some reasoned) considered a coffee shop and it's terrible. When I go to Starbucks, I tend to get a latte, I like them. I don't use any of the flavors, just coffee and milk (for normal coffee I won't put milk in it).
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Hmmm. I guess we have different tastes, but I stand by my assertion that Starbucks has THE worst coffee of any self-proclaimed "coffee shop" chain.

You like Dazbog? I just found out it's Denver-based; they're my go to coffee chain. There's almost as many of them as They Who Shall Not Be Named. Love that KGBlend.
 
RadicalModerate said:
Hmmm. I guess we have different tastes, but I stand by my assertion that Starbucks has THE worst coffee of any self-proclaimed "coffee shop" chain.

You like Dazbog? I just found out it's Denver-based; they're my go to coffee chain. There's almost as many of them as They Who Shall Not Be Named. Love that KGBlend.
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It's alright. Given the choice, I will always go to the local, non-chain store.
 
rocket88 said:
Starbucks, tomorrow. Find one, and drink coffee.

Gay activists counter Chick-fil-A with Starbucks appreciation day - latimes.com
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It just seems petty. Is there then going to be another counter-appreciation day to counter this one?

Come on people, this is ******* pathetic.

All this drama over the CEO giving his opinion in an interview and the fact that, *gasp*, he's legally donating to causes he believes in.

This only strengthens the stereotype some hold of liberals and homosexuals being overly sensitive, in response to mere opinions!
 
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