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    Re: The anti-Chick-fil-A protest - Starbucks [W:39]

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    I know that the 14th Amendment doesn’t protect my right to marry my dog in the state of California. Do you need me to explain it to you?
    The difference is your canine friend is not capable of giving legal consent to such an agreement...
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    Re: The anti-Chick-fil-A protest - Starbucks [W:39]

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Not a coffee fan...so don't really give a ****.
    There are two kinds of people in the world. Those who like coffee, and those who are wrong.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: The anti-Chick-fil-A protest - Starbucks [W:39]

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    I know that the 14th Amendment doesn’t protect my right to marry my dog in the state of California. Do you need me to explain it to you?
    That the best you got? Dodging the real issue and creating a strawman about marrying dogs?

    Any time you want to address my links regarding SSM rights, feel free. I'm looking forward to seeing how you'll dodge them.
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    Re: The anti-Chick-fil-A protest - Starbucks [W:39]

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    The difference is your canine friend is not capable of giving legal consent to such an agreement...
    Sure it is. It can wag its tail!

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    Re: The anti-Chick-fil-A protest - Starbucks [W:39]

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Sure it is. It can wag its tail!
    Is it capable of asking for half in the event of a divorce?
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: The anti-Chick-fil-A protest - Starbucks [W:39]

    Quote Originally Posted by Keridan View Post
    You have the right to marry the person you love.

    And as soon as you made the assumption that a gay man is also a pedophile, you lost the thread. Talk about a moronic statement.

    Btw, SCOTUS has determined that marrying the person of your choice is a right. Though they were focused on race at the time, the comparison is pretty direct.
    Polygamy isnít legal but it once was. Pedophilia isnít legal in marriage but it once was. There are laws in place concerning marriage and you seek to change those laws to include your sexual preference.

    These arenít laws that are constitutionally protected and it isnít hateful to say that it is a bad idea for a man to marry a five year old girl or 25 women. It is a statesí law issue that may or may not become federal law but it isnít a ďhuman rightĒ to marry 25 women is it?

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    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: The anti-Chick-fil-A protest - Starbucks [W:39]

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Is it capable of asking for half in the event of a divorce?
    Dogs can beg.
    Omniscience just sucks without omnipotence!

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    Re: The anti-Chick-fil-A protest - Starbucks [W:39]

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Right now, the vast majority of gay couples are being denied legal access to federally recognized marital unions.
    Totally untrue. Any gay person can marry a person of the opposite sex. That's equal rights right there!

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    Re: The anti-Chick-fil-A protest - Starbucks [W:39]

    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectStorm View Post
    My wife and I are going to do the nasty on one of those bistro tables outside a Starbucks.
    Just don't get the grounds in a sensitive spot.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: The anti-Chick-fil-A protest - Starbucks [W:39]

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    Polygamy isn’t legal but it once was. Pedophilia isn’t legal in marriage but it once was. There are laws in place concerning marriage and you seek to change those laws to include your sexual preference.

    These aren’t laws that are constitutionally protected and it isn’t hateful to say that it is a bad idea for a man to marry a five year old girl or 25 women. It is a states’ law issue that may or may not become federal law but it isn’t a “human right” to marry 25 women is it?
    Pedophilia infringes on the right of security of the young person involved. As for polygamy ... well, I don't really have a problem with it, other than thinking anyone who wants more than one wife is a masochist.

    You do need to make up your mind, though. Are you arguing whether it's a state or federal jurisdiction, whether or not the rights are equal, or whether you should be able to marry your pet?

    On states vs. federal, it's a federal issue due to the fact that one of the few roles federal government was actually designed to fill is to ensure that a right granted in one state is honored in all of them. On equality, we have already presented plenty of points. On the dog thing, I'm sorry, but they are right that it cannot give consent.
    Omniscience just sucks without omnipotence!

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