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    re: NASA's rover Curiosity lands on Mars [W:206]

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    There's a difference in selfish indulgences and knowledge gained.
    Useless knowledge gained is still a selfish indulgence.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    re: NASA's rover Curiosity lands on Mars [W:206]

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Useless knowledge gained is still a selfish indulgence.
    Not if it has a positive externality - unless of course we'd like to argue the genetic coding (and selfish nature) of altruism.
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    re: NASA's rover Curiosity lands on Mars [W:206]

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    The first picture from Curiosity is now in. This is impressive.

    It's good but the Viking 1 lander did the same thing 34 years ago (albeit without the sky crane). The Viking lander had no wheels but that's not much of a technological hurdle.

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    re: NASA's rover Curiosity lands on Mars [W:206]

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    You silly dirtlings finally achieve something and instead you'll be discussing birth certificates all day instead of your major move forward toward joining the inter-galactic federation.

    You think I'm kidding. I'm not.

    Today, your planet really did something important.
    We don't want to join the intergalactic federation--too much bureaucracy.

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    re: NASA's rover Curiosity lands on Mars [W:206]

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    Inter-galactic travel is highly improbable given the limitations of c.
    That's totally false. Alcubierre showed that GR doesn't prohibit warp drive.

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    Anyways, yay!
    I think the first man on Mars will generate the first real big "yay!" humanity has had since 1969. In any case, man still lacks an understanding of the physics needed for warp drive/transporter, FTL communication, etc.

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    re: NASA's rover Curiosity lands on Mars [W:206]

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Are you saying a shorter route to the Far East is not a direct benefit to her and Spain? A couple billion dollars to send a toy to Mars has no direct benefit to us.Its just unnecessarily spending money we don't have.
    And if they found life on Mars with this rover? Would that discovery be unnecessary?
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    re: NASA's rover Curiosity lands on Mars [W:206]

    Oh boy, we landed on Mars AGAIN.

    According to the Office of Management and Budget and the Air Force Almanac, when measured in real terms (adjusted for inflation), NASA has spent $790.0 billion, or an average of $15.818 billion dollars per year over its fifty year history.

    ■6 landings by USA ■Mars Program
    ■Viking Program
    ■Sojourner Rover
    ■"Spirit" and "Opportunity"

    ■3 USSR ■Mars Program

    ■1 ESA ■Beagle Series

    ■Things discovered from past missions ■A Martian year is 687 Earth days
    ■At one point was drenched with water
    ■Mars may have sustained life

    I'm not sure which face fits here so I will make both of them.

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    re: NASA's rover Curiosity lands on Mars [W:206]

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    That's totally false. Alcubierre showed that GR doesn't prohibit warp drive
    I know all about Alcubierre. Go ahead and list me some technologies that are possible using this ... I'll wait.

    I think the first man on Mars will generate the first real big "yay!" humanity has had since 1969. In any case, man still lacks an understanding of the physics needed for warp drive/transporter, FTL communication, etc.
    Warp drives are possible. Transporters really aren't as there is no way to control the way atoms are placed. You'd leave X being as you are and show up Y as a completely different arrangement.
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    re: NASA's rover Curiosity lands on Mars [W:206]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    And if they found life on Mars with this rover? Would that discovery be unnecessary?

    Yes. Micro-organisms do not justify us spending billions of dollars to find it.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    re: NASA's rover Curiosity lands on Mars [W:206]

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    Not if it has a positive externality - unless of course we'd like to argue the genetic coding (and selfish nature) of altruism.
    and what positive externalities will I enjoy from this mission, pray tell?

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