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    re: NASA's rover Curiosity lands on Mars [W:206]

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I just feel they shouldn't dump money into it when our nation - and the world, really - is so volatile.

    People complain about the president's vacation costs - because it's excess while we're at war, etc. . . well space exploration is an excess as well given the circumstances.
    The benefits generated by the quantum-leap from rudimentary rocket technology to man on the moon in around a decade spawned dozens of new technologies, and several new industries, nevermind the hi-tech jobs created by NASA and its providers. You want to be trapped on this little rock as sea levels rise, the population grows, farming yields fall and resources run out? Space has the... room... and resources to feed humanity's desires forever... Earth has enough for, perhaps, a century.

    Anyway, you can feed a lot more starving babies by making cuts to the military budget, since the US spends some 30x more on that than on NASA, or by cutting agricultural subsidies, which cost far more and, for the money, sustain far fewer and less well-paid jobs...
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    re: NASA's rover Curiosity lands on Mars [W:206]

    LOL . . . my view is "hold off and direct those financial efforts where - at the moment - they'll be more beneficial"

    Your response is "the world is ****ed so we better find another planet to move to"

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    You're absurd if you think cutting £10 billion from NASA's budget will make any difference... I'm just saying that there are infinite opportunities for mining and collecting resources in space, I'm not saying we all have to move there.

    Although it would be nice if you peered a little more into the future than the next Presidential Term... if I'd told you in the 50s that man would be landing on the Moon in twenty years you would have called me absurd...

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    re: NASA's rover Curiosity lands on Mars [W:206]

    Ok - ignoring my qualm with spending the money at the present time.

    I do not support raping the universe of all it's goods . . . that's the stupidest reason to go exploring. If that's the ONLY reason for space exploration I'd take a firm stand 100% against it.

    We have ALL we need here and if we can't pull through the natural disasters and climate changes that are just a routine for our planet and subsequently our species then perhaps we need to consider just removing ourselves altogether worldwide Jones-town style since we can't seem to get our **** together long enough to exist amicably.
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    re: NASA's rover Curiosity lands on Mars [W:206]

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Yeah cause worrying about how much money something cost that is not really any direct benefit to anyone sure is unreasonable,especially when our country is in debt.Maybe the next big waste of money should be building a landing strip on the moon.
    Direct benefit?

    Perhaps finding microbial life on mars will finally put an end to religion and the whole "god created life" idea. Then again, I'm sure they will just spin this and say "mars was his test planet".

    That would be a great benefit to MANY people.
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    re: NASA's rover Curiosity lands on Mars [W:206]

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    I hate this argument. The Mars Science Laboratory was initiated in 2004 and landed on Mars several days ago. In that elapsed time for one of the most significant scientific projects we have embarked on in the United States for quite a few years it cost $2.6 billion.
    That averages out to about $325 million a year. So I want to ask you if you think that the federal budget, and the future solvency of the United States rests upon a budgetary outlay of $325 million? Of course not. If we had even a mild increase in our NASA budget, created big and exciting contracts for emerging space development corporations (like a lunar base, like a Lagrangian point fueling station, like putting a mass driver on the moon...), we would accelerate the expansion of our space frontier and its eventual exploitation and settlement.

    NASA is .48% of the federal budget let's shove the hysterics about the looming national debt catastrophe.
    I hate this argument. Everyone has their pet spending project and everyone says it is a tiny fraction of the national budget. A few billion here a few billion there and pretty soon you are talking real money and you are pet projecting the economy over a cliff.

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    re: NASA's rover Curiosity lands on Mars [W:206]

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    What if we discover a way to mine extremely valuable minerals and space and then we earn billions and billions from that.
    Keep dreaming, LOL

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    re: NASA's rover Curiosity lands on Mars [W:206]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I hate this argument. Everyone has their pet spending project and everyone says it is a tiny fraction of the national budget. A few billion here a few billion there and pretty soon you are talking real money and you are pet projecting the economy over a cliff.
    NASA is not a "Pet" project. It is responsible for most of the communications you take advantage of today. Not to mention inspiring thousands of kids to become something greater than a bag clerk at a grocery store.
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    re: NASA's rover Curiosity lands on Mars [W:206]

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    Alright, let's take a look. How will knowing that "Nasa is effective" benefit me or really anyone for that matter?
    By showing that NASA can be effective, they should receive more funding and can begin projects again (as they did in the not-too-distant past).

    How will "rock samples" from Mars benefit me or anybody?
    Potentially allowing other resources that can be used for future technology. Gives us another place to exhaust resource on.

    How will knowing whether Mars does or has ever sustained life benefit me or anybody?
    Because you could potentially live there? If Mars is capable of sustaining life, it gives us another home and makes us that much closer to inter-planetary and inter-stellar travel.
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    re: NASA's rover Curiosity lands on Mars [W:206]

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Ok - ignoring my qualm with spending the money at the present time.

    I do not support raping the universe of all it's goods . . . that's the stupidest reason to go exploring. If that's the ONLY reason for space exploration I'd take a firm stand 100% against it.

    We have ALL we need here and if we can't pull through the natural disasters and climate changes that are just a routine for our planet and subsequently our species then perhaps we need to consider just removing ourselves altogether worldwide Jones-town style since we can't seem to get our **** together long enough to exist amicably.
    We can't "rape the universe" of it's goods. Hell, we won't be able to travel to 90% of the universe. Jeez, take a cosmology class.
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