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    Re: Murfreesboro church's crosses offer message to Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    I am pretty disgusted by this and the people pretending these are just crosses. It is clear these people are trying to use the church to abuse people. This is not right. This isnt just putting up crosses on their property they are trying to use what should be a religious icon representing peace, love and togetherness not this.
    Exactly. Seems most of the people here being purposefully obtuse have a dog in this fight. Like they wouldn't be 100% Christian if they had an ounce of objectivity and said, yeah, they are probably being a bit aggressive with their symbolism.

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    Re: Murfreesboro church's crosses offer message to Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    "your kind aint welcome here" isn't protected by the 1st amendment?
    The sentence is. The action isn't.

    Why are you playing dumb?

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    Re: Murfreesboro church's crosses offer message to Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    colorado springs is one of the most christian influenced places i have ever been. We have churches and mega churches here. The problem is not thta they put up crosses, the problem is the message they are attempting to send and the intent of the these specific crosses. Dont play dumb. This isnt just about a church putting up a cross.
    What message is that? That their faith is the best? I am sure the Muslims feel they same way about their religion.
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    Re: Murfreesboro church's crosses offer message to Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    is there some rule that says a liberal cant have faith in a religion.
    Most liberals tend to view religion no different than a harry potter book and that religion is something you should separate from your professional and political life.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Murfreesboro church's crosses offer message to Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    What message is that? That their faith is the best?
    Just because it isn't outwardly violent doesn't mean it isn't meant to be intimidating.

    It's clearly meant to show Muslims that this is a Christian area and that they better realize that they are a minority here.

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    Re: Murfreesboro church's crosses offer message to Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Most liberals tend to view religion no different than a harry potter book and that religion is something you should separate from your professional and political life.
    i wholly disagree with that statement. Atheists tend to be liberals more often then not, however, being liberal does not make a person athiest.
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    Re: Murfreesboro church's crosses offer message to Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    What message is that? That their faith is the best? I am sure the Muslims feel they same way about their religion.
    are you just messing with me? i really cant tell if you are trying to be funny or if you are really this blind.
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    Re: Murfreesboro church's crosses offer message to Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    Exactly. Seems most of the people here being purposefully obtuse have a dog in this fight. Like they wouldn't be 100% Christian if they had an ounce of objectivity and said, yeah, they are probably being a bit aggressive with their symbolism.
    some people feel the need to justify anything anyone does in the name of religion.
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    Re: Murfreesboro church's crosses offer message to Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Most liberals tend to view religion no different than a harry potter book and that religion is something you should separate from your professional and political life.
    That is true for some liberals, but not for many others. There is actually a large number of Christian liberals who view government as a vehicle for fulfilling the biblical commands to love thy neighbor and to be your brothers keeper. The welfare state, for them, is faith based and therefore moral. For them, the separation of church and state is mere rhetoric.

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    Re: Murfreesboro church's crosses offer message to Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    Just because it isn't outwardly violent doesn't mean it isn't meant to be intimidating.

    It's clearly meant to show Muslims that this is a Christian area and that they better realize that they are a minority here.
    Do you have any evidence of this are you just speculating?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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