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    Re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Domestic terrorism is someone of the country attacking his fellow countrymen with a hate/scare/political agenda. It isn't a made up media term. Lets not blame the media for everything.

    Spree shootings are when the shooter(s) pick totally random victims with no motive to instill fear or financial gain.

    OKC Thunder shooting was a D-boy shooting, not spree, not domestic terrorism. OKC bombing in '95 was domestic terrorism. It wasn't social and it wasn't a spree. We in Oklahoma understand the difference, it was brought home in gruesome detail as a firefighter brought the body of a small child out of the rubble- that damn sure wasn't 'social'.

    The Sikh Temple shooting was domestic terrorism. Play word games all you want, there is a difference between rival drug gangs having it out and a man with white supremist ties walking into a place of worship and shooting those of a different faith.

    It is social terrorism because it is one faction of society terrorizing another faction of society.
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    Re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    I have to wonder if any of these crazy fanatics have considered,
    If God wanted someone Smote, wouldn't it make a better show if He did it himself.

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    Re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    I have to wonder if any of these crazy fanatics have considered,
    If God wanted someone Smote, wouldn't it make a better show if He did it himself.
    God is Pure and therefore cannot directly take the action so a born sinner bears the burden of God's smoting. The Rico Statute came out long after the Bible and doesn't apply.
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    Re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Domestic terrorism is someone of the country attacking his fellow countrymen with a hate/scare/political agenda. It isn't a made up media term. Lets not blame the media for everything.

    Spree shootings are when the shooter(s) pick totally random victims with no motive to instill fear or financial gain.

    OKC Thunder shooting was a D-boy shooting, not spree, not domestic terrorism. OKC bombing in '95 was domestic terrorism. It wasn't social and it wasn't a spree. We in Oklahoma understand the difference, it was brought home in gruesome detail as a firefighter brought the body of a small child out of the rubble- that damn sure wasn't 'social'.

    The Sikh Temple shooting was domestic terrorism. Play word games all you want, there is a difference between rival drug gangs having it out and a man with white supremist ties walking into a place of worship and shooting those of a different faith.
    Calling it 'domestic' terrorism is a word game. Terrorism is terrorism.

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    Re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    No Vance-
    refining the data to show this terrorist attack was done by one countryman on his fellow countrymen is why 'domestic' is added to terrorism. Timothy McVeigh was a domestic terrorist.

    Social terrorism??? I can't find anyone who agrees with that term as real and domestic as fabricated by the media....

    please link to where you found this.

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    Re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    No Vance-
    refining the data to show this terrorist attack was done by one countryman on his fellow countrymen is why 'domestic' is added to terrorism. Timothy McVeigh was a domestic terrorist.

    Social terrorism??? I can't find anyone who agrees with that term as real and domestic as fabricated by the media....

    please link to where you found this.
    Terrorism is terrorism. We dont run around the globe pointing out it is 'only' domestic terrorism when some scumbag blows up a souk in Iraq. We shouldnt qualify it as anything less than here.

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    Re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    It is domestic terrorism when Sunnis kill ****tes, but not when al-Queera operatives come into Iraq to kill Iraqis. But I am curious, why do you use the term 'only' with domestic terrorism? I don't consider domestic terrorism to be lower than international terrorism.

    Why do you think that way?

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    Re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    No Vance-
    refining the data to show this terrorist attack was done by one countryman on his fellow countrymen is why 'domestic' is added to terrorism. Timothy McVeigh was a domestic terrorist.

    Social terrorism??? I can't find anyone who agrees with that term as real and domestic as fabricated by the media....

    please link to where you found this.
    Sorry but it is called "domestic terrorism" because people do not want it to be linked with "Islamic terrorism", because "Islamic terror" is something over there and "they are fighting us because they hate our freedom" mentality, where as "domestic terrorism" can be written off as a nutter with loose political motives which can easily be dismissed as coming from a nutter.

    The sad part is that there is more "domestic terrorism" in the US than Islamic terrorism and often it is not even categorised as terror because the person doing it is a white Christian and more than often a "right winger", and everyone knows how the right reacts when they are accused of harbouring fanatics that shoot people....we all remember how the right reacted when the administration released a GOP ordered (by Bush) report on domestic right wing terrorism.... or when Gabby Gifford and a few left wingers were gunned down...

    Even this time around it is a clear cut right wing terror attack and people are falling over themselves to dismiss it as not only as a terror attack but trying whatever possible to get distance between their right wing beliefs and the crazies on the right who did the terror and share a lot of those beliefs.

    It is time for the right to admit that they have a problem and deal with it.
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    Re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    It is domestic terrorism when Sunnis kill ****tes, but not when al-Queera operatives come into Iraq to kill Iraqis. But I am curious, why do you use the term 'only' with domestic terrorism? I don't consider domestic terrorism to be lower than international terrorism.

    Why do you think that way?
    I have no need to qualify the term. Terrorism is terrorism. Acts of terrorism can be committed by the white guy next door or the Muslim guy down the road. They commit acts of terror. Why do you insist on qualifying it?

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    Re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I have no need to qualify the term. Terrorism is terrorism. Acts of terrorism can be committed by the white guy next door or the Muslim guy down the road. They commit acts of terror. Why do you insist on qualifying it?
    Because people dont want some white guy that looks like your cousin to be in the same box as OBL.... it is sadly a very common and natural thing to do. Denial basically. There is no difference between a white Christian using a weapon to terrorise the public or a dark/black Muslim using a bomb to blow up a bus, or an Asian using poison gas to kill people in a subway... they are all terrorists, but they are not called that depending on who is describing it.
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