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    re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    My wife's cousin is a gun toting deacon of his church. They actually meet to discuss security and tactics. There was a time when I thought it rather stupid. My attitudes changed about a year ago. I'm sorry to say that I think it is probably a good idea.

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    re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by wbcoleman View Post
    I heard a somewhat more detailed physical description than that, but we still have no idea who he is or why he did it. Why jump to conclusions now? We'll have some actual facts in a few hours.
    You're right but even if the shooter is confirmed to be white we still won't be able to take about race or religion. Gun control discussion is of course taboo in mass shootings. We all know that it won't solve the problem.
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    re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Mass Shootings; Unpredictable and Unpreventable

    Although upgrading the level of political discourse may be much needed and changes in gun laws (whether stricter or more permissive) may be argued, these steps will likely not make a shred of difference in term of the incidence of mass murder. Mass killers, though often delusional, are deliberate and determined. They seek revenge against specific individuals, or against society as a whole, in large part regardless of whatever social policies we put in place.

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    re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Greenfield Police Chief Bradley Wentlandt said tactical officers have been through the temple, where shots were fired about 10:30 a.m. Sunday. He said they found four bodies inside the building and three outside.

    He said one of those killed outside is the suspect, who fired on the first officer to arrive. Mr. Wentlandt says that officer fired back, killing the suspect. He says the officer is now at a local hospital in surgery.


    Seven Killed at Sikh Temple in Wisconsin - WSJ.com

    How in hell is the dead perp a "suspect"???
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    re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Probably some dumbass redneck who hates 'towel heads'.

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    re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by wbcoleman View Post
    I heard a somewhat more detailed physical description than that, but we still have no idea who he is or why he did it. Why jump to conclusions now? We'll have some actual facts in a few hours.
    I'm guessing an unemployed blue collar guy who blamed "foreigners" for his life position.
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    re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    You're right but even if the shooter is confirmed to be white we still won't be able to take about race or religion. Gun control discussion is of course taboo in mass shootings. We all know that it won't solve the problem.
    Well, it won't. Mass shooters are motivated by overwhelming feelings of hate, alienation or victimization. These emotions are part of the human condition. When an unstable individual gets caught up in this mental pathology, their desire for revenge will express itself.

    We can ban every weapon and possible weapon in the world. The spree killer will just bludgeon his victims to death in lieu of other weapons.

    The individual is the problem, not the way in which he killed people.

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    re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    You'e really more disgusted by people's opinions of shootings than the actual shootings themselves?

    That's ****ed up.

    I'd rather have zero shootings and a thousand blowhards pontificating on past shootings than the opposite.
    Hold on there mate.

    Perhaps my phrasing was not the best (had a couple of beers this afternoon).

    Lets get one thing straight.

    Of course the shootings are worse, which is why at times like these sometimes I think we should have a swift justice law with strict criteria.

    Witnesses, CCTV, evidence so on and so forth presented, and in cases of mass killings the person is put to death several days later. In the case of Colorado it would have been a no brainer, we all know who did it.

    But the idea that I can't also be pissed about the way the media covers these events is rediculious, because in some ways I believe it encourages people with a certain mind set to want to committ the crimes, the idea of being "infamous" and all.

    Anyway yeah didn't phrase my statement particularly well but believe me, enemy #1 is the shooters in these cases.

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    re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by wbcoleman View Post
    Greenfield Police Chief Bradley Wentlandt said tactical officers have been through the temple, where shots were fired about 10:30 a.m. Sunday. He said they found four bodies inside the building and three outside.

    He said one of those killed outside is the suspect, who fired on the first officer to arrive. Mr. Wentlandt says that officer fired back, killing the suspect. He says the officer is now at a local hospital in surgery.


    Seven Killed at Sikh Temple in Wisconsin - WSJ.com

    How in hell is the dead perp a "suspect"???
    Journalism standards require accuracy in some areas and until someone has been convicted in a court they have to refer to the person as a "suspect." Unless of course they are doing a story on Iraq or Afghanistan where everyone in opposition is a convicted terrorist. Even the kids.
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    Or he's just a psychotic narcissist
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