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    Re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Sadly this is probably the case. Tribalism is inherent to human nature, and there will always be those that have whatever issue of the mind or soul that leads them to take this kind of horrific action.
    That and there are just demographics to consider on aggregate. There's a lot of us, and some non-zero portion of our population is going to act against other people. It's just a generality of aggregate society. There will be good people, there will be bad people. Stable society requires the vast majority of us to be "good", and I do think that's the case. But there's always going to be some non-zero portion of crime and jerks out there. Humanity's ability to create is eclipsed only by our ability to destroy and we will engage both of these frequently. But even if the world came together and we didn't really need to worry about fighting other countries, we'd still have some amount of danger present in humans themselves and even under the most ideal of cases, if you consider human nature then you must understand, and on some level accept, the aggregate behavior of the species.
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    Re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Unfortunately there's a better than average chance this moron thought he was attacking a mosque.

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    Re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    Unfortunately there's a better than average chance this moron thought he was attacking a mosque.
    As in, in wouldn't have been so bad if it was a mosque?
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    Re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    Unfortunately there's a better than average chance this moron thought he was attacking a mosque.
    Why is this unfortunate?


    If it was a mosque would it have made it a good thing?
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    Re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Why is this unfortunate?


    If it was a mosque would it have made it a good thing?
    No, it's unfortunate that people are so stupid.
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    Re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    Unfortunately there's a better than average chance this moron thought he was attacking a mosque.
    Possibly, but his action still fits into attacking something "foreign" and "non-white", which would still be legit in his viewpoint.
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    Re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    No, you didn't. You've been accusing people in the southern US of this crap ever since I remember reading your posts on this forum.
    Actually, the right reacts with frenzied defense and accusations of playing the racism card every time it's mentioned. The fact is, this clown may belong to a minority but there are a hell of a lot of people on the Right who wouldn't do this but 'understand' why somebody would.

    And please don't play the 'poor white southerner' card. They gave up any right for sympathy around 1964.
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    Re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Whose suggested that.

    There absolutely are white supremacists and neo-nazi's.

    The imagination is those that suggest that somehow such things are in any way "mainstream" within "the right wing" or that is worthy of being spoken about in the same breath as the mainstream "right" of this country as if they're just a standard subset rather than a minority fringe thing. Or the imagination is that anyone who ever doesn't agree with the majority of the left on anything involving a racial aspect is somehow a "White Supremacist".
    The Far Right gets in bed with these folks philosophically on a daily basis. It's why you have 'Hussein Obama' and 'half-breed' posts about the President.

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    Re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    They are handling this very different from recent shootings. Within hours we knew at least a bit about what we were dealing with. Its taken 24 hours and we still have only the barest of accounts. Good and bad I guess except that it has caused so much mindless speculation. Thoughts and prayers to the families of the victims.
    It turns out the 'speculation' that the guy was a white supremacist and that the shootings were racially motiviated wasn't quite as 'mindless' as those on the Far Right wanted to believe.
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    Re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Just as an observation point... something for all of you on both sides of the aisle to remember as one side blames the other for what happened. The ideology is not the problem... for two reasons. Firstly, it is people who choose how to respond to their beliefs. Two people can have the same beliefs and both can respond and react to those beliefs completely differently. And secondly, anyone who uses the actions of an extremist to condemn an entire group... NOT just the extremists of that group, doesn't know what they are talking about and are just making invalid and ridiculous overgeneralizations, probably based on their own invalid biases. So... leftwingers... please remember this when you foolishly try to condemn right wing ideology for what happened in Milwaukee.

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