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    Re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by Sig View Post
    Racially speaking, Punjabis do NOT consider themselves mongoloids. Never have.
    But they fill out Asian in the US census and not white/caucasian.

    "White. A person having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, the Middle East, or North Africa. It includes people who indicate their race as "White" or report entries such as Irish, German, Scottish, Italian, Near Easterner, Arab, or Polish."[12]
    "Black or African American. A person having origins in any of the Black racial groups of Africa. It includes people who indicate their race as 'Black, African Am.' or provide written entries such as Kenyan, Nigerian, or Haitian."[12]
    "American Indian and Alaska Native. A person having origins in any of the original peoples of North and South America (including Central America) and who maintain tribal affiliation or community attachment."[12]
    "Asian. A person having origins in any of the original peoples of the Far East, Southeast Asia, or the Indian subcontinent including, for example, Cambodia, China, India, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Pakistan, the Philippine Islands, Thailand, and Vietnam. It includes 'Asian Indian,' 'Chinese', 'Filipino', 'Korean', 'Japanese', 'Vietnamese', and 'Other Asian'."[12]
    "Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander. A person having origins in any of the original peoples of Hawaii, Guam, Samoa, or other Pacific Islands. It includes people who indicate their race as 'Native Hawaiian', 'Guamanian or Chamorro', 'Samoan', and 'Other Pacific Islander'."[12]
    "Some other race. Includes all other responses not included in the 'White', 'Black or African American', 'American Indian and Alaska Native', 'Asian' and 'Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander' race categories described above. Respondents providing write-in entries such as multiracial, mixed, interracial, We-Sort, or a Hispanic/Latino group (for example, Mexican, Puerto Rican, or Cuban) in the "Some other race" category are included here."[12]
    "Two or more races. People may have chosen to provide two or more races either by checking two or more race response check boxes, by providing multiple write-in responses, or by some combination of check boxes and write-in responses."[12]
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    Re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by Sig View Post
    Racially speaking, Punjabis do NOT consider themselves mongoloids. Never have.
    I mean, most Sikh's consider themselves Sikh first, Punjabi second, Indian third, and Asian fourth, depending on how far you zoom out. It isn't so much a genetic categorization. Like I explained, the genetic piece doesn't really make much sense there since everybody is everything. But they do identify as Asian. That isn't something debateable. Anybody who knows any Sikhs in real life is aware of that. Anybody who has been there or even who knows a lot of Indians is aware of that. But still, I do think you raised an interesting topic for what it's worth.
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    Re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    This is how the question looked in the 2010 census.


    Snapshot: Race in the US Census
    The 23rd federal census, 2010 [11] asks one ethnic and one race question (questions 1-4 not reproduced here, questions 5 and 6 paraphrased):
    8. Is the person of Hispanic, Latino, or Spanish origin?
    No, not of Hispanic, Latino, or Spanish origin
    Yes, Mexican, Mexican Am., Chicano
    Yes, Puerto Rican
    Yes, Cuban
    Yes, another Hispanic, Latino, or Spanish origin — Print origin, for example, Argentinean, Colombian, Dominican, Nicaraguan, Salvadoran, Spaniard, and so on.
    9. What is the person's race?
    White
    Black, African Am., or Negro
    American Indian or Alaska Native — Print name of enrolled or principal tribe.
    Asian Indian
    Chinese
    Filipino
    Other Asian — Print race, for example, Hmong, Laotian, Thai, Pakistani, Cambodian, and so on.
    Japanese
    Korean
    Vietnamese
    Native Hawaiian
    Guamanian or Chamorro
    Samoan
    Other Pacific Islander — Print race, for example, Fijian, Tongan, and so on.
    Some other race — Print race.
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    Re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    It would surprise the hell out of me if it was random. My money says that if the shooters were white guys the shooters are ignorant pissants who don't actually know anything about Sikhs. Rather, they chose to shoot them because most Sikhs are brown and they were turbans.

    One thing for certain is that it's another hate crime. I'm getting sick of hate and haters. I'm tired of people who label and stereotype and hurl invectives at an entire group.

    As always I regret the tragedy. I am sorry that it has happened to the Sihk community. I have friends who are Sikhs. They are peaceful people, but are revered and regarded as fierce fighters in combat.
    the current thinking is that the asshole who shot these people was too stupid to understand that Sikhs are not Muslims and it appears that this mope-who had 9-11 tattooed on him was a muslim hater.

    I recall a Sikh cab driver was murdered by some racist turd after 9-11 not knowing the difference

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    Re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    My girlfriend's roommate had friends in the temple when the shooting occurred. They're all okay.

    This is racist terrorism against a minority Sikh population. Anyone that doesn't believe this is on par with any of the acts of "Muslim terrorism" can shove it up their racist asshole. Terrorism is committed by people that are mentally unstable, not solely religiously motivated.
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    Re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    But they fill out Asian in the US census and not white/caucasian.

    If you notice, there is no category in the census for "White/Caucasian" or even "Caucasian."

    Punjabis would not usually consider themselves white. "White" typically refers to the fairer skinned peoples of Europe and their descendants. However, "white" does not necessarily equate with "Caucasian," and this is the point!

    Hence, Punjabis may not be "white" in the familiar sense of the term, but they are certainly Caucasian, or more specifically: caucasoid. They are certainly not mongoloid.

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    Re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by Sig View Post
    If you notice, there is no category in the census for "White/Caucasian" or even "Caucasian."

    Punjabis would not usually consider themselves white. "White" typically refers to the fairer skinned peoples of Europe and their descendants. However, "white" does not necessarily equate with "Caucasian," and this is the point!

    Hence, Punjabis may not be "white" in the familiar sense of the term, but they are certainly Caucasian, or more specifically: caucasoid. They are certainly not mongoloid.

    Get it now?

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    Re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    White and Caucasian are used interchangeably in the US. Don't pretend it isn't
    Just because they are used interchangeably does not mean it is the correct usage, or that it precludes a different usage of the term
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    Re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    White and Caucasian are used interchangeably in the US. Don't pretend it isn't
    True. There are quite a few ignoramuses in the U.S. when it comes to the subject; and, yes, you are one of them.
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