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    Re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

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    Re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

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    Re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

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    Then your not getting the argument. There are 5 race categories in the US. Im sure you know what they are. Which one do you think a punjabi person indentifies with?
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    Re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

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    What could possibly be more right wing than beating up a Sikh because you thought he was Muslim and you hate Muslims? That's so right wing that even Bachmann would be a bit uncomfortable about it... Somebody who does that is hard core right wing by definition...
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    Re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    Then your not getting the argument. There are 5 race categories in the US. Im sure you know what they are. Which one do you think a punjabi person indentifies with?
    There are actually only three races: caucasoids, mongoloids, and negroids.

    Which one do you think a punjabi identifies?
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    Re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    US census considers it a race.
    Does the US census have a category

    Caucasian right now?
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    Re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Does the US census have a category

    Caucasian right now?
    White, Black or African American,
    American Indian or Alaska Native,
    Asian, and Native Hawaiian or
    Other Pacific Islander.
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    Re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Sikhs do identify as Asian and demographics always categorize them as Asian.

    But, in Sig's defense, it is kind of an interesting question. India is one of the places where our concept of race breaks down. It's right at the intersection of three different "races". And it was a massive trade hub for all three areas for thousands of years. There is even evidence of a trade route between southern Africa and India going back 4,000 years, which is totally insane... In reality, probably just about everybody in India has some ancestors that would today have been considered white, black and Asian if you look back far enough. Keep in mind that just 20 generations ago, there were around 1 million people alive, in just that one generation, who were your ancestor.

    But, India is some 3,000 miles past the border between Europe and Asia. As a point of comparison, London is only 2,000 miles away from the border between Europe and Asia. India shares a border with China. That doesn't necessarily mean they are Asian, but that kind of puts their decision to identify as Asian in context I think.
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    Re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Sikhs do identify as Asian and demographics always categorize them as Asian.

    But, in Sig's defense, it is kind of an interesting question. India is one of the places where our concept of race breaks down. It's right at the intersection of three different "races". And it was a massive trade hub for all three areas for thousands of years. There is even evidence of a trade route between southern Africa and India going back 4,000 years, which is totally insane... In reality, probably just about everybody in India has some ancestors that would today have been considered white, black and Asian.

    But, India is some 3,000 miles past the border between Europe and Asia. It shares a border with China. That doesn't necessarily mean they are Asian, but that kind of puts their decision to identify as Asian in context I think.
    Racially speaking, Punjabis do NOT consider themselves mongoloids. Never have.
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    Re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Does the US census have a category

    Caucasian right now?
    This is from the census site:

    The U.S. Census Bureau must adhere to the 1997 Office of Management and Budget (OMB) standards on race and ethnicity which guide the Census Bureau in classifying written responses to the race question:

    White – A person having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, the Middle East, or North Africa.

    Black or African American – A person having origins in any of the Black racial groups of Africa.

    American Indian or Alaska Native – A person having origins in any of the original peoples of North and South America (including Central America) and who maintains tribal affiliation or community attachment.

    Asian – A person having origins in any of the original peoples of the Far East, Southeast Asia, or the Indian subcontinent including, for example, Cambodia, China, India, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Pakistan, the Philippine Islands, Thailand, and Vietnam.

    Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander – A person having origins in any of the original peoples of Hawaii, Guam, Samoa, or other Pacific Islands.

    The 1997 OMB standards permit the reporting of more than one race.
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