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    re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Repeating an already failed deflection: Poor tactics.

    You're a terrible embarassment to all reasonable Progessives and liberals every time you open your mouth lately.
    Obviously the source is proving a little elusive!
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    re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    WRONG...it consists of IDEAS.
    On the general side of ideologies, right wing or left.
    One is not automatically racist or not racist.
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    re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    I say we stop speculating and blaming and all try to be Sikh for the afternoon:


    To promote positive qualities both personally and among the community. To embrace Sat (Truth); Daya (Compassion); Santokh (Contenment); Nimrata (Humility); and Pyare (Love) as positive qualities of life.

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    re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    No I haven't.
    Progressives were some of the first modern liberals.
    With many modern liberals wanting to preserve their traditions and beliefs.
    They also happened to be pretty racist.
    This is just stupid beyond belief, you have twisted the modern understanding of what a "social conservative" in US politics means, and now you are in engaging in absolutism trying to argue that US Progressives hold to any and all ideas from past progressives......and try to twist that into "social conservatism". Unbelievable, utter and total nonsense.



    So it's meaningless that they supported "left wing" policies, but also happened to be racist?
    What a liberal was 200 years ago is not the same as what a liberal is today....you just keep on with this silly nonsense.
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    re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    WRONG...it consists of IDEAS.
    Ideas don't hang in the air unsupported, like balloons. They are held up by something... by the belief of those who embrace them.

    For instance, the Constitution would have no power if people no longer believed in it. It would just be used paper.

    An ideology consists of a group of people who espouse those beliefs. A person can be bigoted against a group of people regardless of his selection criteria, if his negativity towards them is based on irrational, unsupported, biased or ignorant beliefs about them.

    Case in point: Teamoisil. I wouldn't be surprised if when he stubs his toe he exclaims "Those damn right-wingers!"

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    re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    No I haven't.
    Progressives were some of the first modern liberals.
    With many modern liberals wanting to preserve their traditions and beliefs.
    They also happened to be pretty racist.



    So it's meaningless that they supported "left wing" policies, but also happened to be racist?
    I'm not really following this argument too well. What message are you trying to make about modern politics based on the positions and attitudes of the Jacksonian democrats?

    And secondly, what has it got to do with the shooting of Sikhs in their gurduwara?
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    re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    On the general side of ideologies, right wing or left.
    One is not automatically racist or not racist.
    Now you are creating a non sequitur, my comment had nothing to do with inherent racism of ideologies.

    You can keep on with these absolutely ridiculous posts.....but this is just beyond belief.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    This is just stupid beyond belief, you have twisted the modern understanding of what a "social conservative" in US politics means, and now you are in engaging in absolutism trying to argue that US Progressives hold to any and all ideas from past progressives......and try to twist that into "social conservatism". Unbelievable, utter and total nonsense.
    I don't actually believe that because some progressives were racist 100 years ago, that they're racist today.
    It's just fallacious to say that ethno/racial centrism is automatically right wing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    What a liberal was 200 years ago is not the same as what a liberal is today....you just keep on with this silly nonsense.
    Even if liberals support the same things today?
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    re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    They are held up by something... by the belief of those who embrace them.
    OK....but ideologies ARE NOT "made up" of people, they consist of ideas......people and ideas/ideologies are very different things.

    I just cannot get over the level of conversations going on here, they have such limited basis.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    When you hear these people speak about the Sikh community and what has happened to them today, they are unbelievably peaceful and understanding.

    We could all learn something from them.

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