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    re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    What do you mean? I'm not sure I follow what part of it you disagree with.
    "The fundamental proposition of social conservatism is "my demographic group is superior to those that differ from it". In its weakest form, that manifests as somewhat harmless things like wanting to teach creationism in school. In its strongest form, that manifests as concentration camps. It's all the same spectrum."

    Do you have a source, or are you just making it up?
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    re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Umm no it's not.
    Now you're just making things up.
    Social conservatism is dependent on who runs each group and on what values the group wants to preserve.
    Hmm, so you see social conservatism as being about preserving the past. I don't think that explains, for example, why social conservatives seem psyched about Romney saying that Jews are culturally superior to Palestinians. In the US, since the US used to be more demographically homogeneous than it is now, preserving things the way they were before overlaps somewhat with the whole demographic superiority thing, but where they don't overlap, social conservatives seem to still come down on the pro-bigotry side of issues, so the time thing can't be the real explanation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Nice try though, trying to shoe horn Nazism into social conservatism.
    Er, what? You don't agree that Nazism was socially conservative? Are you kidding me? That is the absolute most extreme textbook case of social conservatism... Some people argue that Nazis were not really right wing extremists because their economic policies were kind of middle of the road, but I've never in my life heard somebody argue that they were not right wing in terms of their social policies... I mean, if that isn't right wing social policy, what the heck would be?
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    re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by wbcoleman View Post
    How can you say that? Leftists love everybody.
    Leftists don't love white Christian males.

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    re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_rebson View Post
    Leftists don't love white Christian males.
    Did Glenn Beck tell you that?
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    re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Umm no it's not.
    Now you're just making things up.
    Social conservatism is dependent on who runs each group and on what values the group wants to preserve.

    Nice try though, trying to shoe horn Nazism into social conservatism.
    Um, no, a liberal "preserving" liberal values does not become a social conservative.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_rebson View Post
    Leftists don't love white Christian males.
    Oh, no! Leftism = Peace and LUVVVVVV.....
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    re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Hmm, so you see social conservatism as being about preserving the past. I don't think that explains, for example, why Social conservatives seem psyched about Romney saying that Jews are culturally superior to Palestinians. In the US, since the US used to be more demographically homogeneous than it is now, preserving things the way they were before overlaps somewhat with the whole demographic superiority thing, but where they don't overlap, social conservatives seem to still come down on the pro-bigotry side of issues, so the time thing can't be the real explanation.
    That in and of itself does not prove anything you've said thus far.
    You're just cherry picking situations that support your argument, rather than looking at the whole.

    Are ethno/racial centric marxist groups characteristic of the general left wing attitude towards people?

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Er, what? You don't agree that Nazism was socially conservative? Are you kidding me? That is the absolute most extreme textbook case of social conservatism... Some people argue that Nazis were not really right wing extremists because their economic policies were kind of middle of the road, but I've never in my life heard somebody argue that they were not right wing in terms of their social policies... I mean, if that isn't right wing social policy, what the heck would be?
    That's only true, if you view the policies of the Nazi's with an incredibly limited lens, in order to disparage people you don't like.

    You're continuously try to poison the well with, racism is automatically right wing.
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    re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Um, no, a liberal "preserving" liberal values does not become a social conservative.
    It absolutely can be social conservatism.
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    re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    The KKK was founded by Democrats.
    I don't want to derail the thread, we should be thinking about the families.

    But the Democratic party was on the right side of the political spectrum during that period.

    You are aware the parties have switched polarities over the course of our history?

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