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    re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Uh, no.. I said we would need to become LESS tolerant of right wing hate. So MORE trying to close down the businesses of right wing hatemongers.
    Look at you being all the perfect model of 'wing' hatred and stuff... Way to set the example.

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    re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    What could possibly be more right wing than beating up a Sikh because you thought he was Muslim and you hate Muslims? That's so right wing that even Bachmann would be a bit uncomfortable about it... Somebody who does that is hard core right wing by definition...
    While I understand what you're saying, I think it best to, for the time being, focus our thoughts on supporting these families and also reaching out to those in our own communities that may feel concerned in the wake of this event.

    I would suggest we avoid speculation, let the police to their jobs and report in when they've gathered all the information.

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    re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    I don't even get what you guys are saying... You don't think beating up or killing people because they are from a different demographic background than you is right wing? What do you think social conservatism is about? ...snip....
    This is not some strange aspect of a right wing ,conservative mindset....this is a crazy F@ck.

    claiming a political opponent led to a shooting is just silly.

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    re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    I don't even get what you guys are saying... You don't think beating up or killing people because they are from a different demographic background than you is right wing? What do you think social conservatism is about? Killing somebody for being from a different demographic background than you are is the most extreme form of social conservatism. Maybe level one is wanting to favor your own demographic group in various ways (eg, pushing for government funding for religious organizations from your religion, seeking to have creationism taught in public schools, etc), level two is to try to get government to give clear indications that it considers your group superior to others (eg, English as a national language bills, banning cultural studies courses, etc), level three is seeking to oppress members of other demographic groups (eg, forbidding gay people from getting married, fighting not to allow mosques to be built, etc), level four is physical violence against other demographic groups, level fix is killing members of other demographic groups for being different than you. You see what I'm saying, right? I mean, certainly one can argue that the top couple levels are extreme enough to no longer be called "social conservatism", but it is all the same thing, just more and more extreme amounts of it, right?
    Racism and violence is not in the sole possession of right wing groups.
    You're just poisoning the well, by automatically ascribing these attributes to these people.

    It's no different than, what than what the people you're attempting to profile, do.
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    re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    This is not some strange aspect of a right wing ,conservative mindset....this is a crazy F@ck.

    claiming a political opponent led to a shooting is just silly.
    But liberals do it ALL THE TIME.
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    re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    I don't even get what you guys are saying... You don't think beating up or killing people because they are from a different demographic background than you is right wing? What do you think social conservatism is about? Killing somebody for being from a different demographic background than you are is the most extreme form of social conservatism. Maybe level one is wanting to favor your own demographic group in various ways (eg, pushing for government funding for religious organizations from your religion, seeking to have creationism taught in public schools, etc), level two is to try to get government to give clear indications that it considers your group superior to others (eg, English as a national language bills, banning cultural studies courses, etc), level three is seeking to oppress members of other demographic groups (eg, forbidding gay people from getting married, fighting not to allow mosques to be built, etc), level four is physical violence against other demographic groups, level fix is killing members of other demographic groups for being different than you. You see what I'm saying, right? I mean, certainly one can argue that the top couple levels are extreme enough to no longer be called "social conservatism", but it is all the same thing, just more and more extreme amounts of it, right?
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    This guy was not a right-winger.
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    re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Look at you being all the perfect model of 'wing' hatred and stuff... Way to set the example.
    Er, what are you talking about? How is boycotting a business that engages in right with hate itself hate? That's the opposite of hate.
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    re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    byrd.jpg

    This guy was not a right-winger.
    Robert byrd was a conservative democrat. Yes he was a rightwinger.
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    re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Racism and violence is not in the sole possession of right wing groups.
    You're just poisoning the well, by automatically ascribing these attributes to these people.

    It's no different than, what than what the people you're attempting to profile, do.
    Violence certainly is not the sole possession of right wing groups. Violence pops up all over the spectrum. But racism is inherently right wing. It is extreme social conservatism. That's what it is.
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    re: Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple Outside Milwaukee [W:211]

    For the 100th time Sikh =/= Islam.

    "There are roughly 500,000 Sikhs in the U.S., according to estimates." wow
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