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Viral video of man picking on Chick-fil-A worker gets him fired

So what I'm getting out of this is, you enjoy free speech in this country, only if you don't mind risking your livelihood? Is that really free speech?
 
Freedom from government censure for your speech. The jerk in the OP video is not constitutionally guaranteed a job. Though I think his firing was over the top.


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KevinKohler said:
So what I'm getting out of this is, you enjoy free speech in this country, only if you don't mind risking your livelihood? Is that really free speech?
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This isn't a First Amendment issue. If you act like an ass, your boss has the right to fire you.
 
An employer has a right to fire anyone, for any reason. And then the fired has a right to claim unemployment benis, if that reason is found wanting by the state.


This doesn't concern me. At all. What does is the reaction to this.
 
GPS_Flex said:
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I think the company that fired this guy did the right thing. The Chick-fil-A employee that this jerk bullied has nothing to do with the opinions of the company’s president and this type of bullying is nothing more than good old fashioned fascism.
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I do not think the guy should have lost his job over voicing his opinion to a drive thru cashier. The right to free speech applies to everyone, including pro-gays, anti-gays, and even assh#les who like to video tape themselves making a fast-food cashier feel awkward on the job by asking her awkward questions.

That being said, if I were this guy's boss I would have certainly fired him for uploading a video of himself being such an assh#le since he will most likely make an assh#ole of the company for which he works, in the fullness of time, if he has not done so already on numerous occasions.
 
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Sig said:
I do not think the guy should have lost his job over voicing his opinion to a drive thru cashier. The right to free speech applies to everyone, including pro-gays, anti-gays, and even assh#les who like to video tape themselves making a fast-food cashier feel awkward on the job by asking her awkward questions.

That being said, if I were this guy's boss I would have certainly fired him for uploading a video of himself being such an assh#le since he will most likely make an assh#ole of the company for which he works, in the fullness of time, if he has not done so already on numerous occasions.
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The right to free speech has absolutely no bearing on your employer's ability to fire you for whatever reason he deems necessary. Once again, simply put, this isn't a First Amendment issue. The First Amendment is about government's ability to limit your right to free speech/express/assembly.
 
GJ Flash said:
Adam Smith apologizes:

Adam M. Smith Apologizes to Chick-Fil-A Employee - YouTube

A day late and a dollar short, but still. Good on him. He just went up a few pegs in my book.

And about the people sending him death threats: Really? Death threats? Unacceptable. There is no excuse for that. None. Maybe folks need to tone it down a bit. Not just about this nonsense, but about life in general. Just my $.02.

MickeyShane: Here in Colorado, Chic-fil-A doesn't charge you for the water. They give it away free to anyone who asks (even if they don't need free water and they're just being jerks about it). One of the local franchisees will even feed you if your hungry and don't have the means, so long as you don't make a habit out of it. Also, in our local news, they spent about 10 seconds talking about the appreciation day (with no mention of freedom of speech, which was what it WAS all about), and spent the other 50 seconds interviewing some lesbian. You should watch the 9News stream out of Denver, you'd love it.
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*watches 30 seconds*

*looks to right and clicks this link*

Torrie Wilson & Candice Michelle - apologize - YouTube
 
GJ Flash said:
Adam Smith apologizes:

Adam M. Smith Apologizes to Chick-Fil-A Employee - YouTube

A day late and a dollar short, but still. Good on him. He just went up a few pegs in my book.

And about the people sending him death threats: Really? Death threats? Unacceptable. There is no excuse for that. None. Maybe folks need to tone it down a bit. Not just about this nonsense, but about life in general. Just my $.02.

MickeyShane: Here in Colorado, Chic-fil-A doesn't charge you for the water. They give it away free to anyone who asks (even if they don't need free water and they're just being jerks about it). One of the local franchisees will even feed you if your hungry and don't have the means, so long as you don't make a habit out of it. Also, in our local news, they spent about 10 seconds talking about the appreciation day (with no mention of freedom of speech, which was what it WAS all about), and spent the other 50 seconds interviewing some lesbian. You should watch the 9News stream out of Denver, you'd love it.
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At first I thought Adam was sincere about his apology but it went bad from 1:15 on in this 7:45 minute video.

I watched and re-watched his “apology video” a few times because he’s a very smart and well spoken man but in the end, I see his video more as an apology to those he was forced to hurt for the “bigger picture” political agenda he has and as an attempt to paint himself as some type of a martyr for the sacrifices he made.

Watch the entire video but re-watch from 5:35 to 6:10 and tell me that this guy isn’t still considering this Chick-Fil-A employee “collateral damage” for his political agenda and trying to present himself as some kind of a gay rights martyr.
 
Here's an interview with Rachel. Ihaven't watched it yet, so cant say if it's interesting...

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I just watched most of it, and she is well spoken but otherwise blah. Nothing interesting.
 
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"It always tastes better when it's full of hate."

What an idiot. Having actually weatched the video that man was a prick and deserved to lose his job. I wouldn't want this slimeball working for me.
 
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I'm liking some of these comments on YouTube:

"How ironic is it that this supposed anti hate advocate would be so hateful to this innocent lady while shes at work?"
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"For the life of him, he was not expecting the internet fame he got. He sort of figured this will just be another video to make couple of hundred random viewers chuckle. Bad idea. His "little" mistake is now under the HUGE microscope of internet, being more pronounced day after day. But he's the one who filmed it and put it on youtube, so he has only himself to blame for this disaster. Lost his job, reputation, possibly girlfriend, coworkers/friends. Just goes to show how powerful internet is!"
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The guy is an obvious asshole, but he didn't deserve to be fired.

His 1st Amendment rights were violated by this action.
 
This is what happens if you are an executive and are a public face of a company, maintaining your personal reputation becomes important for continued employment.
 
apdst said:
The guy is an obvious asshole, but he didn't deserve to be fired.

His 1st Amendment rights were violated by this action.
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For the last time, the First Amendment pertains to protecting free speech from government action. The 1st Amendment means absolutely nothing in terms of employer-employee relationship. If your employer fires you for something you said, he might be a jerk and it might be a basis for a civil lawsuit, but he did not violate the Constitution.
 
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apdst said:
The guy is an obvious asshole, but he didn't deserve to be fired.

His 1st Amendment rights were violated by this action.
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Private businesses can fire at will.
 
apdst said:
The guy is an obvious asshole, but he didn't deserve to be fired.

His 1st Amendment rights were violated by this action.
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At least your lack of understanding of the first amendment is bipartisan.
 
The guy is a douche bag. Yes.

And yes the company had a right to fire him.

Just think if this guy was a police officer and did something like this in his off-duty time and posted it on youtube.

People would be calling for his badge, having the incident "investigated", etc, etc, etc. All claiming that he gets tax dollars and thus its the public's business.



However, If this guy worked for the city trash service, not so much, nobody would care. (still tax dollars).


This guy's employers looked into it (investigation) and made their decision to fire him.
 
apdst said:
The guy is an obvious asshole, but he didn't deserve to be fired.

His 1st Amendment rights were violated by this action.
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How so?

Here is the first amendment

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
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What part of that was violated?
 
GPS_Flex said:
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I think the company that fired this guy did the right thing. The Chick-fil-A employee that this jerk bullied has nothing to do with the opinions of the company’s president and this type of bullying is nothing more than good old fashioned fascism.
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Guy was probably hoping he'd get the girl ranting on his video phone, then give it to the media and maybe gets 15 seconds of fame. Seems it backfired. The CFA employee made him look like the idiot he was, IMO.
 
StillBallin75 said:
For the last time, the First Amendment pertains to protecting free speech from government action. The 1st Amendment means absolutely nothing in terms of employer-employee relationship. If your employer fires you for something you said, he might be a jerk and it might be a basis for a civil lawsuit, but he did not violate the Constitution.
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And, for the last time, when when their are consequences to you excercising your freedoms, they're not really freedoms. No one should have to fear reprisal--from anyone--for excercising their constitutional rights. Anyone that doesn't agree with that knows nothing about what freedom really means.
 
muciti said:
How so?

Here is the first amendment



What part of that was violated?
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You believe in being sorta free? The government can't ruin your life, but someone else can? That's not freedom.
 
Wake said:
Private businesses can fire at will.
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Well, actually, they can't. There's a such-a-thing as, "wrongful discharge", which protects employees from such behavior.
 
apdst said:
You believe in being sorta free? The government can't ruin your life, but someone else can? That's not freedom.
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We live in a world where we have to interact with other people, deal with it.
 
apdst said:
And, for the last time, when when their are consequences to you excercising your freedoms, they're not really freedoms. No one should have to fear reprisal--from anyone--for excercising their constitutional rights. Anyone that doesn't agree with that knows nothing about what freedom really means.
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We usually agree on stuff, but I am going to have to disagree with you on this one bud.

If I walk up to you and call you an "ugly ****ing N******" I should not have to fear reprisal from your fist for exercising my freedoms?
 
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