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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

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    Your opinion noted, the President sets the tone and demonizing individual wealth creation as well as promoting class warfare claiming the rich aren't paying their fair share doesn't set the positive tone necessary to lead anything positively. The Govt. isn't expected to fix the problem only provide the atmosphere for the private sector to do it. You believe Obama supports the private sector and individual responsibility? The "You didn't build that" President is a total and complete failure just like his resume said he would be.
    You just running off with unsupported predetermiend narratives isn't equal to godd sound supported reasoning. Whenever you get stuck, you seem to go into these rants. try addressing the points made. Just a suggestion.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You just running off with unsupported predetermiend narratives isn't equal to godd sound supported reasoning. Whenever you get stuck, you seem to go into these rants. try addressing the points made. Just a suggestion.
    I responded to your post, you don't like the response, then tough, ignore it just like ignore actual data

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

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    I responded to your post, you don't like the response, then tough, ignore it just like ignore actual data
    NO, you went off on an unrelated rant.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    NO, you went off on an unrelated rant.
    No, here is your post, suggest you read what you posted

    Yeah, times got rough, real rough. And that damage was done before Obama took office. Did you think they would swear him in and the sun would shine, robins would sing and all problems woudl vanish? No preident created these problems and none can make them better. It will take time and a lot of work from a lot of people, including you and me and the private sector. But government does not and can not control the economy without taking control. If you want the government to, lobby for that and help us beciome China (who don't have much for regulations). If you don't, quit whining that government hasn't fixed this problem.
    You seem to not understand that I don't expect the President to fix the problem but I expect the President to set a positive tone and promote a positive agenda and this administration has been a failure. He has zero leadership skills and the results reflect his resume. You bought the rhetoric and ignored the resume. We are getting exactly what his resume showed. Maybe next time you will pay more attention to the resume

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No, here is your post, suggest you read what you posted



    You seem to not understand that I don't expect the President to fix the problem but I expect the President to set a positive tone and promote a positive agenda and this administration has been a failure. He has zero leadership skills and the results reflect his resume. You bought the rhetoric and ignored the resume. We are getting exactly what his resume showed. Maybe next time you will pay more attention to the resume
    No, you complain about the results, repeatedly. As for tone? The real tone others outside of partisans hear, or the one you and other partisans pretend to hear? Which one are we talking about? And do you really think business moves based on the president's tone?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

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    No, waiting for the policies that Bush implemented that created a recession in December 2007?
    Bush kickstarted the subprime housing bubble in 2002 with his sale of $440 Billion in subprime garbage to Fannie Mae. Plus he presided over a GOP Congress that sat idly by while trillions in predatory Mortgages were pawned off on unsuspecting borrowers and investors alike. The subprime bubble and collapse was the major instigator in the global financial meltdown.
    It is ludicrous to blame Democrats without any evidence that they could have done anything while in the minority. 99% of subprime mortgages were written before 2007.
    Phil Gramm is equally responsible as he wrote and promoted the bills that deregulated the banks, removing the safeguards put in place after the Great Depression, freeing the banks to turn their industry into a huge casino where all the bets were winners...the Govt. covered all the losses.
    I bet you can never guess where Gramm is now?

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

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    No, here is your post, suggest you read what you posted



    You seem to not understand that I don't expect the President to fix the problem but I expect the President to set a positive tone and promote a positive agenda and this administration has been a failure. He has zero leadership skills and the results reflect his resume. You bought the rhetoric and ignored the resume. We are getting exactly what his resume showed. Maybe next time you will pay more attention to the resume
    Since when are billionaire CEO's so thin skinned? That premise is laughable. Why would a business hire if they don't need more workers? Because the President tells them they are heroes? Only a child would believe that BS. Is this your way of saying Romney has no plan except he want HIS taxes lowered some more? I think voters will want something more than that.

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Bush kickstarted the subprime housing bubble in 2002 with his sale of $440 Billion in subprime garbage to Fannie Mae. Plus he presided over a GOP Congress that sat idly by while trillions in predatory Mortgages were pawned off on unsuspecting borrowers and investors alike. The subprime bubble and collapse was the major instigator in the global financial meltdown.
    It is ludicrous to blame Democrats without any evidence that they could have done anything while in the minority. 99% of subprime mortgages were written before 2007.
    Phil Gramm is equally responsible as he wrote and promoted the bills that deregulated the banks, removing the safeguards put in place after the Great Depression, freeing the banks to turn their industry into a huge casino where all the bets were winners...the Govt. covered all the losses.
    I bet you can never guess where Gramm is now?
    The crisis was "kicked off" in 1977 by the Community Reinvestment Act.
    Alan Greenspan went and lowered the Federal Funds Rate to a extreme low in 2001 making for easy lending.
    The 440 Billion went to Fannie Mae to fund the NeighborWorks America. A urban non-profit investment company with a goal to get housing for 5.5 million minorities (Accomplished, don't agree with the strategy, but the goal was accomplished. Each family received a home at an average of $80,000). The NeighborWorks America is a program from 1978, chartered by congress.

    In 1978, Congress institutionalized the NHS network by establishing the Neighborhood Reinvestment Corporation to carry on the work of the Urban Reinvestment Task Force. [In April 2005, the Corporation began doing business as NeighborWorks America.] The Congressional act (Public Law 95-557) charged Neighborhood Reinvestment with promoting reinvestment in older neighborhoods by local financial institutions in cooperation with the community, residents and local governments. Bill Whiteside was named executive director. The act defined Neighborhood Reinvestment's mission as "revitalizing older urban neighborhoods by mobilizing public, private and community resources at the neighborhood level."
    NeighborWorks America | History

    I know you want to blame Bush for this, but he didn't set up the organizations. He didn't deregulate the banks (That was signed by Pres Clinton). Many of the issues you point to started well before 2000.
    We went from sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me to safe spaces.

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Bush kickstarted the subprime housing bubble in 2002 with his sale of $440 Billion in subprime garbage to Fannie Mae. Plus he presided over a GOP Congress that sat idly by while trillions in predatory Mortgages were pawned off on unsuspecting borrowers and investors alike. The subprime bubble and collapse was the major instigator in the global financial meltdown.
    It is ludicrous to blame Democrats without any evidence that they could have done anything while in the minority. 99% of subprime mortgages were written before 2007.
    Phil Gramm is equally responsible as he wrote and promoted the bills that deregulated the banks, removing the safeguards put in place after the Great Depression, freeing the banks to turn their industry into a huge casino where all the bets were winners...the Govt. covered all the losses.
    I bet you can never guess where Gramm is now?
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    Does Senate Majority Leader Dashale the new Republican know that since Democrats controlled the Senate? Didn't know that President's can spend a dime without Congressional Approval. You have been brainwashed by an ideology that is making a fool out of you

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Since when are billionaire CEO's so thin skinned? That premise is laughable. Why would a business hire if they don't need more workers? Because the President tells them they are heroes? Only a child would believe that BS. Is this your way of saying Romney has no plan except he want HIS taxes lowered some more? I think voters will want something more than that.
    Since the Obama results became public all he needs is a bumper sticker saying "I'm not Obama"

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