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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Some wanted to impeach Bush, but the GOP would not go along.....and then his policies created the gdp plunge.
    Which policies, exactly?

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Which policies, exactly?
    Read my sig....see if you can find the consistency. I can't.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

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    When the recession started there were 115 million private sector employees, today that is 111 million, that isn't growth and it took over a trillion dollars in stimulus to generate those numbers. All Obama has been able to do is spent over a trillion dollars and generate 400,000 more private sector jobs than when he took office. Facts have a simple way of getting in the way of your personal opinions. You must think you are dealing with a typical Obama supporter that buys your liberal garbage
    Yeah, times got rough, real rough. ANd that damage was done before Obama took office. Did you think they would swear him in and the sun would shine, robins would sing and all problems woudl vanish? No preident created these problems and none can make them better. It will take time and a lot of work from a lot of people, including you and me and the private sector. But government does not and can not control the economy without taking control. If you want the government to, lobby for that and help us beciome China (who don't have much for regulations). If you don't, quit whining that government hasn't fixed this problem.

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    You changed the subject again, private employment has recovered AND increased under Obama.

    So much for the "hindered" claim.
    Only enough to satisfy the "Jay-Walker" Obama supporter. 23 million unemployed/under employed Americans don't see it your way

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yeah, times got rough, real rough. ANd that damage was done before Obama took office. Did you think they would swear him in and the sun would shine, robins would sing and all problems woudl vanish? No preident created these problems and none can make them better. It will take time and a lot of work from a lot of people, including you and me and the private sector. But government does not and can not control the economy without taking control. If you want the government to, lobby for that and help us beciome China (who don't have much for regulations). If you don't, quit whining that government hasn't fixed this problem.
    According to Obama, yep, expected him to keep his promises but knew he couldn't because his resume didn't justify the job. Zero leadership skills led to the results we have today and a one term President

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    According to Obama, yep, expected him to keep his promises but knew he couldn't because his resume didn't justify the job. Zero leadership skills led to the results we have today and a one term President
    GOP couldn't stop it, impeachment begins in the House. Democrats didn't move forward because they wanted the issue not their quotes about the war put into public. You really have been brainwashed.

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Which policies, exactly?
    Don't expect an answer because you won't find one. Amazing how Bush with a Democrat controlled Congress created the problems all by himself but Obama with a Democrat controlled Congress couldn't generate better results after spending over a trillion dollars and adding 5.4 trillion to the debt.

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Oh yes, they are. 13.7 is less than 14.2.
    So...there are less unemployed people, even though the unemployment rate is worse now AND there are more people now then when Obama took over?

    How could that be?

    Simple - the participation rate.

    Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

    The workforce participation rate is a full 2 percentage points lower then when Obama took over - and even the most optimistic Liberal think tanks say that at MOST, half of those left the work force due to retirement (and even those that retired - it is impossible to know how many of those did so prematurely because they could not find full time employment).

    That leaves at least 1% of the 'civilian noninstitutional population' since Obama took over that want full time employment - but because they are so discouraged they have given up looking.

    Employment Situation Summary Table A. Household data, seasonally adjusted

    A little quick math will tell you that there are actually 2.433 million more unemployed Americans then the government is currently listing because they do not count discouraged workers as unemployed - even though these workers (theoretically) want full time jobs just as much as those that are officially unemployed.
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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Only enough to satisfy the "Jay-Walker" Obama supporter. 23 million unemployed/under employed Americans don't see it your way
    I already showed you that this is not a true statement, many of those unemployed will vote for the President. They are not going to vote for a candidate and party whose platform will INCREASE unemployment.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yeah, times got rough, real rough. ANd that damage was done before Obama took office. Did you think they would swear him in and the sun would shine, robins would sing and all problems woudl vanish? No preident created these problems and none can make them better. It will take time and a lot of work from a lot of people, including you and me and the private sector. But government does not and can not control the economy without taking control. If you want the government to, lobby for that and help us beciome China (who don't have much for regulations). If you don't, quit whining that government hasn't fixed this problem.
    Government has taken control. When government puts up a stop sign you are required to stop. Government sets policy, and the president is the commander in chief and the buck stops with him. Have you ever heard business say, "government get out of the way" meaning government is in their face over regulating, taxing, and now imposing Obamacare costing businesses more and more money to operate.
    Liberals - Punish the Successful, Reward the Unsuccessful
    Liberals - Tax, Borrow, Spend, and Give Free Stuff
    Obama's legacy - President Donald Trump

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