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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

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    Yet it was less than early 1980 and it was about 250,000 more from 1983 during a time when the economy created 16 million jobs. How is Obama doing in creating 16 net job increases
    What?

    That was census workers, a single event in his term, they were hired and let go....which actually helped temporarily with his employment numbers, but the point is, under Reagan, fed employment rose, directly against your ideology.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

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    No, actually he tripled the debt for a total of 1.7 trillion dollars in 8 years. Why don't you take that debt and put it into 2012 dollars? See what you come up with. Think the debt service on 1.7 trillion is the same as the debt service on 5.4 trillion even putting the 1.7 trillion into 2012 dollars? You really are desparate
    Debt is a 2 parts, spending and revenue, trying to compare it under 2 eras is apples and oranges. Reagan did not see the large drop in revenue.

    The measure being used is spending per capitia, a standard using comparable data. I know you don't want to accept it, but Reagan spent more in real terms the Obama.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    What?

    That was census workers, a single event in his term, they were hired and let go....which actually helped temporarily with his employment numbers, but the point is, under Reagan, fed employment rose, directly against your ideology.
    Reagan increased Govt. workers by 250,000 out of the 16 million total jobs created, when will Obama have policies that improve the unemployment rate?

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Debt is a 2 parts, spending and revenue, trying to compare it under 2 eras is apples and oranges. Reagan did not see the large drop in revenue.

    The measure being used is spending per capitia, a standard using comparable data. I know you don't want to accept it, but Reagan spent more in real terms the Obama.
    Debt hasn't changed in definition but apparently 5.4 trillion and a 15% U-6 rate is worthy of your vote. Obama won't get mine although it won't matter here as he will lose TX by 3 million votes.

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

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    Debt hasn't changed in definition but apparently 5.4 trillion and a 15% U-6 rate is worthy of your vote. Obama won't get mine although it won't matter here as he will lose TX by 3 million votes.
    You don't want to talk about Reagan's fed spending, that's cool....avoidance noted.

    You want to vote for a guy who wants to decrease revenues and increase unemployment.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    You don't want to talk about Reagan's fed spending, that's cool....avoidance noted.

    You want to vote for a guy who wants to decrease revenues and increase unemployment.
    I have no problem talking about Reagan's performance at all but find it typical that you would want to divert from the Obama economic record and the thread topic. Just think what govt. revenue would be if 23 million unemployed/under employed Americans today were working and working full time.

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Just a reminder:

    Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    How about that Obama?

    I'd love to have a beer with the guy - but what a crappy POTUS he has been.
    Last edited by DA60; 08-05-12 at 05:01 PM.

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I have no problem talking about Reagan's performance at all but find it typical that you would want to divert from the Obama economic record and the thread topic. Just think what govt. revenue would be if 23 million unemployed/under employed Americans today were working and working full time.
    I know. imagine if we did not have the massive layoffs of state and local workers....they would all be paying taxes!

    We would have more revenue, less unemployment!

    The unemployment numbers....would be so much better!
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    I know. imagine if we did not have the massive layoffs of state and local workers....they would all be paying taxes!

    We would have more revenue, less unemployment!

    The unemployment numbers....would be so much better!
    What massive layoff's? 9000 in July is massive in your world? 7000 state and 2000 Federal? Without those 9000 the unemployment would still be over 13 million in July

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