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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You still haven't answered my question. I keep answering yours and will again. Do me the same curtousy.

    Yes, from loss of public sector jobs. This is what you want, right?
    The loss of public sector jobs has nothing to do with Obama and shows fiscal responsibility at the state level. What Obama has done is destroy incentive in the private sector thus not enough economic growth to create a reduction in the unemployment numbers. To blame the increase on public employees ignores the 1.5% economic growth which is down vs. 2011 and 2011 was down vs. 2010. We have a declining economy and you want to give Obama a pass. The electorate will not give him another pass in November

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

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    So there are more Federal Employees today than when Obama took office, thank you for confirming the actual facts. Maybe Boo will get the message
    Now it is your turn to explain why you want increased levels of unemployed fed/state/local workers while you complain about the current unemployment numbers.
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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Uh...let me help you with your logic, you said our current POTUS's econ policy is responsible for the GDP results, so all things being equal, all POTUS's econ policies are responsible for their respective GDP results....ie, Bush's econ policy is responsible for the GDP drops during his terms.
    Bush is responsible for the results that occurred during his term just like Obama is responsible for the results he has right now.

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Now it is your turn to explain why you want increased levels of unemployed fed/state/local workers while you complain about the current unemployment numbers.
    How bad to the economic numbers have to get before you hold Obama acccountable for his failures?

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The loss of public sector jobs has nothing to do with Obama and shows fiscal responsibility at the state level. What Obama has done is destroy incentive in the private sector thus not enough economic growth to create a reduction in the unemployment numbers. To blame the increase on public employees ignores the 1.5% economic growth which is down vs. 2011 and 2011 was down vs. 2010. We have a declining economy and you want to give Obama a pass. The electorate will not give him another pass in November
    Doesn't it? If he to blame for the negative doesn't he get credit for the positive? You can't have it both ways. The increase in governemnt was largely due to an aging population, more people needing services, and the military, none of which Obama did. Now, we see what you have touted for a long time, less public sector jobs, shrinking government, and more private sector jobs. This can only result in higher unemployment. Agian, you seem to not understand your own ideology.

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    They are intertwined today. Money form one employs the other. But, governemnt is government. Be it local or federal. A big state government is only marginally better than a big federal goverment. Beleive me state legislators amke the same arguments for reducing governments are federal cadidates do.
    No. Every state out there has to balance its books, primarily because it can't print money to then loan to itself. Liberal bastions such as Illinois raised taxes out the whazoo, while NY and CA have made huge cuts, with more to come. That current liberal cesspool known as the Obama Administration knows only how to create more debt than anyone .......... ever.

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    They are intertwined today. Money form one employs the other. But, governemnt is government. Be it local or federal. A big state government is only marginally better than a big federal goverment. Beleive me state legislators amke the same arguments for reducing governments are federal cadidates do.
    Shows how little you really know, states cannot print money and keep employees on the payroll that they cannot fund. Obama can do that

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Economy Creates 163,000 New Jobs but Rate Rises to 8.3%

    Despite the seemingly good news, the report's household survey showed that the actual amount of Americans working dropped by 195,000, with the net job gain resulting primarily from seasonal adjustments in the establishment survey. The birth-death model, which approximates net job growth from newly added or closed businesses, added 52,000 to the total.

    The household survey also showed 150,000 fewer Americans in the workforce.
    Hmmmm...

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So there are more Federal Employees today than when Obama took office, thank you for confirming the actual facts. Maybe Boo will get the message
    Not very likely, as Boo is, after all, Boo. If there is ANYTHING that Obama did not do/change, then that is the fault of Bush (forever) in the land of Boo. Never mind that Obama KEPT 99% of Bush policy, thus making it Obama policy; in the land of Boo that is STILL Bush policy - it just happened during Obama's term. In the land of Boo if Obama did not PERSONALLY do it, it is excusable as not REALLY on his watch. Thus we have the situation where the SAME tax rates used in EVERY YEAR under Obama are still the "Bush" tax rates; see how neat that is? You can blame Bush for doing EXACTLY what Obama did - not changing the tax rates that CONGRESS passed.


    In the land of Boo "public sector" means all gov't, he makes no distinctions between federal, state and local. He thinks public is public and private is private. A worker for IBM is the same as a worker for McDonalds, they are both private. A worker for the U.S. Armay is just like a Texas teacher they are both pubilc. In the land of Boo things are ONLY what he "feels" that they are. It is mind over matter, in the land of Boo, if Boo does not mind then it does not matter.
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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Shows how little you really know, states cannot print money and keep employees on the payroll that they cannot fund. Obama can do that
    Some of them are even bound by their constitution to balance their budgets.

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