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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    He is also the 1st President to inherit a economy that was shedding jobs at a rate of 700,000 a month. Making up losses like that takes time. Obama has created 4.5 million jobs in the last 29 months and 1.5 million this year alone. You know stuff like that.
    I am trying to understand people like you but you make it difficult. What is it about Obama that creates this kind of loyalty? The results just don't warrant it no matter how much you try to blame Bush almost four years later. If Bush had results like Obama you would be outraged as would I. The difference is you ignore the results and still blame Bush. Why since I know you are smarter than this?

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    He is also the 1st President to inherit a economy that was shedding jobs at a rate of 700,000 a month. Making up losses like that takes time. Obama has created 4.5 million jobs in the last 29 months and 1.5 million this year alone. You know stuff like that.
    He didn't do that, somebody else did.

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    The job loss is coming from the public sector. Something you want, smaller government. The job growth is in the private sector, also something you want. So under Obama. you're getting what you thinkis best. Right?
    9000 jobs were lost in the public sector last month. Doesn't change the 23 million unemployed/under employed or the 850,000 discouraged workers.

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    It is interesting that you are concerned about them now, since previously you said you would not hire a long-term unemployed discouraged worker. Now....you want to count them. Wonders never cease.
    That is why I posted the discouraged workers as well as the U-6 numbers for years. Keep showing your own biases and ignorance.

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    9000 jobs were lost in the public sector last month. Doesn't change the 23 million unemployed/under employed or the 850,000 discouraged workers.
    Don't leap all around. The growth is in the private sector and the losses in the public sector. Isn't this what you want? Recoveries take time, and when you shrink government, adding to the unemployed numbers, it takes more time. But, it is what you want, correct?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    It is interesting that you are concerned about them now, since previously you said you would not hire a long-term unemployed discouraged worker. Now....you want to count them. Wonders never cease.
    Discouraged workers by month

    Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey
    Original Data Value

    Series Id: LNU05026645
    Not Seasonally Adjusted
    Series title: (Unadj) Not in Labor Force, Searched For Work and Available, Discouraged Reasons For Not Currently Looking
    Labor force status: Not in labor force
    Type of data: Number in thousands
    Age: 16 years and over
    Job desires/not in labor force: Want a job now
    Reasons not in labor force: Discouragement over job prospects (Persons who believe no job is available.)
    Years: 2002 to 2012

    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
    2002 328 375 330 320 414 342 405 378 392 359 385 403 369
    2003 449 450 474 437 482 478 470 503 388 462 457 433 457
    2004 432 484 514 492 476 478 504 534 412 429 392 442 466
    2005 515 485 480 393 392 476 499 384 362 392 404 451 436
    2006 396 386 451 381 323 481 428 448 325 331 349 274 381
    2007 442 375 381 399 368 401 367 392 276 320 349 363 369
    2008 467 396 401 412 400 420 461 381 467 484 608 642 462
    2009 734 731 685 740 792 793 796 758 706 808 861 929 778
    2010 1065 1204 994 1197 1083 1207 1185 1110 1209 1219 1282 1318 1173
    2011 993 1020 921 989 822 982 1119 977 1037 967 1096 945 989
    2012 1059 1006 865 968 830 821 852

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Don't leap all around. The growth is in the private sector and the losses in the public sector. Isn't this what you want? Recoveries take time, and when you shrink government, adding to the unemployed numbers, it takes more time. But, it is what you want, correct?
    What is it about Obama and his policis that create the kind of loyalty you have? If any Republican had these numbers you would be outraged. It is over 3 years since the end of the recession but apparently that isn't enough time for you. Wonder why?

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    That is why I posted ....
    You posted them .....because you don't care about them.....not enough to hire one....huh?
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What is it about Obama and his policis that create the kind of loyalty you have? If any Republican had these numbers you would be outraged. It is over 3 years since the end of the recession but apparently that isn't enough time for you. Wonder why?
    This thread isn't about Obama. It's about the unemployment rate. I asked you a very simple question. I think you're scared to answer it. So, let's try again: The job loss is coming from the public sector. Something you want, smaller government. The job growth is in the private sector, also something you want. So under Obama. you're getting what you thinkis best. Right?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    9000 jobs were lost in the public sector last month. Doesn't change the 23 million unemployed/under employed or the 850,000 discouraged workers.
    But it does "change" it, and where are you getting "23 million"?
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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