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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    I didnt say i didnt support obama neither. You just keep jumping to random conclusions. To keep it simple, the economy has been getting slowly better since 2010. That statement is not an endorsement or and lack of one for anyone.
    Ah yes, the famous Obama almost a year of success theory. Obama was not responsible for 2009, it was messed up by Bush, then came the economic miracle Obama year of 2010 when all was well (relatively speaking, of course), followed by the GOP obstructionist congressional years of 2011 and 2012 when all Obama magic plans were "shot down" by the 66 GOP house meanies of the TP.
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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Wrong, it depends on what unit you are starting from, you can convert the numbers to any unit, you could even calculate them in Yen, it would not matter. A mass does not changed if I measure it in kg or lb.
    Stick with Obama, he deserves people like you

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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Ah yes, the famous Obama almost a year of success theory. Obama was not responsible for 2008 or 2009, those years were all messed up by Bush, then came the economic miracle Obama year of 2010 when all was well (relatively speaking, of course), followed by the GOP obstructionist congressional years of 2011 and 2012 when all Obama magic plans were "shot down" by the 66 GOP house meanies of the TP.
    I never once blamed bush or obama nor gave either of them credit. please read my posts before jumping to that conclusion.
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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Growth is growth. It is going up and not down.

    Futhermore I have cited more than just gallup. But keep only giving half truths. Integrity isnt for everyone.
    No...2+2=5.......
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You will do great in the Government re-indoctrination school. Going up and losing jobs isn't growth, it is a disaster
    If that were true we would have a higher unemployment rate (we dont) or a lower percentage of people working full time (we dont). Your losing jobs arguement is weak.
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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    You just rejected the St.Louis Fed using DoC numbers.
    The GDP of this country is a little over 15 trillion dollars and that is the number we get revenue from and we pay debt serviceon the 16 trillion dollar debt. None of that is in chained dollars. St. Louis Fed isn't wrong but what purpose does that data serve? The growth rate is what it is as are the unemployment numbers

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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    If that were true we would have a higher unemployment rate (we dont) or a lower percentage of people working full time (we dont). Your losing jobs arguement is weak.
    Again, do you know what under employed means? Working full time and earning less money isn't an improvement. Obama sure has people like you brainwashed.

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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Stick with Obama, he deserves people like you
    So your argument is that changing the units changes the value? Is their some "exchange rate cost" that you know about......?
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Funny, you stated earlier that the multiplier is 1.....if you are still talking about a balanced budget multiplier.
    No, I sated the outcome of the stimulus was a multiplier of 1 on a 1.57x projection. Which is true. What I'm stating here is the seemingly mathematical nature of Keynesian models that are the basis for those projections are nonsense. Then I proved it, not using wiki links, but by using math.

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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Who you and other uneducated folk want to blame does not change much. Obama does not have (nor should he) complete control over economy. Consumers have far more control than he does.
    It seems you have a habit of calling people an idiot and now uneducated folk. Consumers do not make policies that effect the economy. Consumers did not write the Obamacare law.

    Can you show me where I did this? I bet you cant. May be a good idea for you to back off this one. You are just wrong.
    Anytime you wish to pick dates to make a point is cherry picking, like from 2010 to now. The next guy will say, from the day Obama took office there are more unemployed now than when he took office. Completely changes the perspective. But hey to you and other uneducated folk don't get it.
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