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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Do we get tax revenue of actual dollars or inflation adjusted dollars?
    Either, it depends on what measurement unit is being used.

    Is the debt in actual dollars or in inflation adjusted dollars. Wow, talk about hopeless.
    Either, it depends on what measurement unit is being used.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    I would suggest you show me where I refute your claim, which you can not do, which I call idiotic.

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    What? So you acknowledge I am right that the economy has been improving since 2010?
    It is further your opinion that the president does not have complete control. Anything that happens on a presidents watch is his/hers. Period. Obama is the Commander in Chief and is our president, same as presidents before him. It is the president that takes credit for the good times and bad times. The buck stops with him. And I don't care who it is, nor does history as history is written by what happens a that presidents watch.
    Who you and other uneducated folk want to blame does not change much. Obama does not have (nor should he) complete control over economy. Consumers have far more control than he does.

    You can cherry pick all you want, and say, yeah Obama should take credit for this and that, but not all that other stuff. What a crock.
    Can you show me where I did this? I bet you cant. May be a good idea for you to back off this one. You are just wrong.
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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Either, it depends on what measurement unit is being used.

    Either, it depends on what measurement unit is being used.
    No it doesn't, we get tax revenue from actual dollars not inflation adjusted dollars and we pay debt service on the actual debt not inflation adjusted dollars.

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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The way you debate out of ignorance is enough for me. Talking about an improving economy from 2010 ignores actual data and proves nothing.
    What data am I ignoring? I have shown data from multiple website including the governement sites that support that it is.
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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    What data am I ignoring? I have shown data from multiple website including the governement sites that support that it is.
    Gallup isn't a Govt. source and the economic growth of 2.5 to 1.8 to 1.5 isn't an improving economy

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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Gallup isn't a Govt. source and the economic growth of 2.5 to 1.8 to 1.5 isn't an improving economy
    Growth is growth. It is going up and not down.

    Futhermore I have cited more than just gallup. But keep only giving half truths. Integrity isnt for everyone.
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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Romulus View Post
    So, when we realize 100% of stimulus is spent, the "multiplier effect" self destructs and becomes infinite.

    Don't be mad bro, it's just math.
    Funny, you stated earlier that the multiplier is 1.....if you are still talking about a balanced budget multiplier.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No it doesn't, we get tax revenue from actual dollars not inflation adjusted dollars and we pay debt service on the actual debt not inflation adjusted dollars.
    Wrong, it depends on what unit you are starting from, you can convert the numbers to any unit, you could even calculate them in Yen, it would not matter. A mass does not changed if I measure it in kg or lb.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Growth is growth. It is going up and not down.

    Futhermore I have cited more than just gallup. But keep only giving half truths. Integrity isnt for everyone.
    You will do great in the Government re-indoctrination school. Going up and losing jobs isn't growth, it is a disaster

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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Gallup isn't a Govt. source and the economic growth of 2.5 to 1.8 to 1.5 isn't an improving economy
    You just rejected the St.Louis Fed using DoC numbers.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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