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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Q4 2011 GDP: 4.1%

    Today it's 1.5%, down more than half from Q4 2011, looks like we're headed for another recession. And this is after Obama flooded the country with borrowed money up to almost 6 trillion added to our national debt.
    You still can't bring yourself to actually read the whole post and respond. Strike 2.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    And yet....what is the GOP/con solution?...lower taxes for the upper quintile.....which will not cause greater demand.

    It is not a supply side problem.
    Stop demonizing individual wealth creation and instead promote it by providing incentive. Implement the Bowles/Simpson recommendations of lowering corporate tax rates as well as individual tax rates. Implement a flat tax, remove SS and Medicare from the budget and put it where it belongs. Then return all social programs except Medicare and SS to the states, local communities, and charites. Increase the deductions for charitable giving. Cut the budget down to 1.5 trillion dollars which I gave you the numbers for. Let the private sector work, eliminate all public unions or if you keep them put all compensation issues with public unions up for a vote by the taxpayers.

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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    In REAL, CHAINED 2005 DOLLARS....yes, I do not believe the Dept of Commerce is LYING.

    Do you....do you...do you...do you?
    Chained dollars don't reflect GDP numbers that generate tax revenue nor create jobs. The real numbers are 15 trillion and that is still too low as it was 14.5 trillion when Bush left office. Therein lies your problem. "Your" President doesn't have a clue how to lead

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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Stop demonizing individual wealth creation and instead promote it by providing incentive. Implement the Bowles/Simpson recommendations of lowering corporate tax rates as well as individual tax rates. Implement a flat tax, remove SS and Medicare from the budget and put it where it belongs. Then return all social programs except Medicare and SS to the states, local communities, and charites. Increase the deductions for charitable giving. Cut the budget down to 1.5 trillion dollars which I gave you the numbers for. Let the private sector work, eliminate all public unions or if you keep them put all compensation issues with public unions up for a vote by the taxpayers.
    Again, none of that increases demand and all of it is again tangential rhetoric.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Chained dollars don't reflect GDP numbers that generate tax revenue nor create jobs. The real numbers are 15 trillion and that is still too low as it was 14.5 trillion when Bush left office. Therein lies your problem. "Your" President doesn't have a clue how to lead
    Who is your president out of curiosity?
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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Again, none of that increases demand and all of it is again tangential rhetoric.
    As an Obama supporter I understand why you don't understand how to create demand. You are supporting the right person as Obama doesn't know either. President Romney does

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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Who is your president out of curiosity?
    I didn't vote for Obama but he is my president unfortunately too. "your" means someone that voted for him.

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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I didn't vote for Obama but he is my president unfortunately too. "your" means someone that voted for him.
    just making sure you understand he was your president

    Now can you acknowledge that since 2010 the economy has been slowly improving?
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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Chained dollars don't reflect GDP numbers that generate tax revenue nor create jobs. The real numbers are 15 trillion and that is still too low as it was 14.5 trillion when Bush left office. Therein lies your problem. "Your" President doesn't have a clue how to lead
    Oh...this is sad. "Real" dollars are adjusted for inflation, those are REAL dollar amounts, and GDP is not a reflection of revenue....it never has been....nor is it a measure of job creation....again it was never meant to be.....so why someone would make such a silly remark is just ...wild.

    It gets even worse when you skip over the reason for the step down in GDP. Hint: it was this thing called a "2008 Recession"...look it up sometime.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    just making sure you understand he was your president

    Now can you acknowledge that since 2010 the economy has been slowly improving?
    and while i got you being honest for a sec do you realize that understanding that the economy is slowly improving acknowledging it does not make someone a liberal or even mean that they support Obama? Do you understand the two are not related?
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