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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    you are asking me to provide evidence contrary to what I posted? I said the economy has been steadily improving since 2010. I said these sites confirm it. NOw you want me to refute my own post? I am not going to do that.
    What on Earth does that have to do with why Gallup's numbers are more reliable (to you) then the governments?
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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    You mean how it GREW by 1.5% this qtr. making it 1.5% HIGHER than it was. 1.5% is not an improvement?
    It is so pointless to engage in debate with them, they are so seriously wedded to a "half empty" mindset.
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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    What part of the economy has improved?

    The GDP?
    I'll take the one..

    A:Yes.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    What on Earth does that have to do with why Gallup's numbers are more reliable (to you) then the governments?
    the state the same thing. they do not refute each other. They support each other. The numbers from the govt and gallup both show economic growth and improvement. Use whichever you'd like the economy is slowly improving.
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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

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    I'll take the one..

    A:Yes.
    thanks! lol
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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    If I thought that continuing debate would help you, I might be tempted to do so...but really I don't have much hope. Romer in her work for the stimulus package used 1.6 as the highest multiplier....AND THAT MEANS EVERY DOLLAR SPENT IS MULTIPLIED BY 1.6 IN CALCULATING IT'S EFFECT THROUGH THE ECONOMY....NOT COSTING THE GOVT MORE.
    She did use that multiplier as a projection, but the reality didn't come out that way, it came out to 1. Read Paul Samuelson or William Nordhaus, both bestselling authors of economics textbooks and Keynesian economists who admit there is no proof of a Keynesian multiplier greater than 1.

    The rest of your claims are just horribly confused libertarian bs that just is not worth my time.
    If your basic knowledge and posting doesn't get better, forget about responses.
    I accept your concession.
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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    the state the same thing. they do not refute each other. They support each other. The numbers from the govt and gallup both show economic growth and improvement. Use whichever you'd like the economy is slowly improving.
    I am not talking about whether the economy is improving or not.

    I am asking you one thing and one thing only.

    Why do you put more stock in the Gallup numbers then the government numbers?


    I do not understand why you are not understanding this simple question?
    Last edited by DA60; 08-03-12 at 05:48 PM.

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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    It isn't the Federal Government's responsibility to pay for teachers, police, and fire. Where did you get your education?
    I believe in revenue sharing, don't you? The Federal Government helped Gov. Perry when he needed it to balance the books.


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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    You mean how it GREW by 1.5% this qtr. making it 1.5% HIGHER than it was. 1.5% is not an improvement?
    Again you have no concept of numbers, the 1.5% is an anualized rate, not a quarterly rate. Better stop trying to act like you know what you are talking about

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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I believe in revenue sharing, don't you? The Federal Government helped Gov. Perry when he needed it to balance the books.
    I believe police, fire, and teachers are local responsibilities as do the states but not the unions.

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