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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    BEA shows economic growth lower each year 2010-2012, U.S. Treasury shows the greatest growth in debt in history. Those kind of improvements?
    you seriously need help. pull up those sites. compare July 2010, july 2011 and july 2012. Let me know what you see.
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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Exactly right so why is it claimed that cutting the FEDERAL BUDGET affects police, teachers, and firemen?
    you are right. i misread that.
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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Aw, there is no question I am way too ignorant to be a liberal. I simply couldn't take their failures and ask for more
    When did I say you were a liberal? Clearly you accidently quoted my post instead of the one you really replied to. Be more careful please.
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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    you seriously need help. pull up those sites. compare July 2010, july 2011 and july 2012. Let me know what you see.
    GDP is quarterly and the GDP this year is 1.5% that is lower than last year and certainly lower than 2010 after all the stimulus spending. Budget deficits are higher each year and the debt s up 5.4 trillion dollars. That isn't an improvement

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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    I have asked you at least 5 times now to support this statement that you made. I have asked and asked and asked and you just keep deflecting.
    I stated it as a fact. You can easily refute it if not. Post what the correct number is if you find one different. Point being, I am not going to link every thing that I post because some members here are either too lazy, or too ignorant, to things that the rest of us feel you should know it you are going to be in the conversation.

    You can find it in Google with less than 10 seconds effort.

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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Romulus View Post
    You obviously don't understand what a multiplier effect is, or that government spending is a cost. Each job created by government stimulus spending cost $200K an ME of 1, Romer found by studying the real world data that stimulus through tax cuts produces an ME of 3. So Obama fired her. Tax cuts cost taxpayers nothing, in fact..it saves them money. Deficit spending stimulus costs taxpayers the service on the debt, future higher taxes, or a loss of some government service.
    If I thought that continuing debate would help you, I might be tempted to do so...but really I don't have much hope. Romer in her work for the stimulus package used 1.6 as the highest multiplier....AND THAT MEANS EVERY DOLLAR SPENT IS MULTIPLIED BY 1.6 IN CALCULATING IT'S EFFECT THROUGH THE ECONOMY....NOT COSTING THE GOVT MORE.

    The rest of your claims are just horribly confused libertarian bs that just is not worth my time.
    If your basic knowledge and posting doesn't get better, forget about responses.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    GDP is quarterly and the GDP this year is 1.5% that is lower than last year and certainly lower than 2010 after all the stimulus spending. Budget deficits are higher each year and the debt s up 5.4 trillion dollars. That isn't an improvement
    You mean how it GREW by 1.5% this qtr. making it 1.5% HIGHER than it was. 1.5% is not an improvement?
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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    I stated it as a fact. You can easily refute it if not. Post what the correct number is if you find one different. Point being, I am not going to link every thing that I post because some members here are either too lazy, or too ignorant, to things that the rest of us feel you should know it you are going to be in the conversation.

    You can find it in Google with less than 10 seconds effort.
    Fair enough. You want to pull numbers out of thin air and throw them out on a forum then expect other people to prove them for you that probably doesnt violate any rules of the site. Seems like a pretty weak debate tactic however. In any case, keep posting nonsense you cant support. Most people will at least attempt to support their claims. You must be special.
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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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