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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    you accidently quoted me again and failed to address my post.

    you want to talk about typical? i'd say you the typical conservative who assumes that anyone who does not beleive his twisted lies and half truths must be an obama supporter, but that wouldnt be fair to the intelligent conservatives.
    Twisted lies and half truths? Sounds like an attack to me without anything factual to support it

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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Not for current conditions they don't. Not anymore. Obama has had his term, the bag he's holding right now is his.



    Don't know, we'll have to wait until November 3rd to find that out.
    If you dont believe that the majority of the poor generally vote democrat when they vote it your own ignorance.
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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Twisted lies and half truths? Sounds like an attack to me without anything factual to support it
    this is an entire devoted to twisting information. I have shown you repeated numbers showing that since 2010 our economy has been getting better. You are twisting numbers and showing partial data to mislead people.

    And for lies, you have called me an Obama supporter, a typical obama supporter and a liberal. Those are lies.

    So there is my factual data and it is far from an attack. Just calling it what it is.
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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    You have some the wackiest economic theories and non-sourced comments I have ever seen! A multiplier effect does not INCREASE the COST of govt spending, at all.

    FFS!
    You obviously don't understand what a multiplier effect is, or that government spending is a cost. Each job created by government stimulus spending cost $200K an ME of 1, Romer found by studying the real world data that stimulus through tax cuts produces an ME of 3. So Obama fired her. Tax cuts cost taxpayers nothing, in fact..it saves them money. Deficit spending stimulus costs taxpayers the service on the debt, future higher taxes, or a loss of some government service.

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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The don't post that the 23 million unemployed/under employed Americans probably will be blaming Bush since you don't know that nor would it be effective four years later. If they are truly blaming Bush then they are too ignorant to vote and know very little about civics.
    Whether you believe they are too ignorant or not is not relevant. Polls and studies show that poor (and the unemployed tend to be poor) favor democratic candidates. Stating that it was my tactic to make them think it or whatever you were getting as was just you failing to understand what I said.
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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So a 3.8 trillion dollar govt is what you want? I am still waiting for you or anyone else to explain to me how raising taxes on the top 2% benefits the economy and creates more economic growth? The lack of an answer is quite telling.
    By raising taxes, many of those public sector jobs (teachers, police, firemen, etc) that were present during the Bush administration and lost their jobs in the recession could be rehired. The present 8.3% unemployment rate would probably be under the 8% if those jobs still existed.


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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Seriously take some time and review the numbers between now and this time last year.
    I don't understand what that has to do with what your evidence is that Gallup's numbers are more accurate then the governments?
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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    this is an entire devoted to twisting information. I have shown you repeated numbers showing that since 2010 our economy has been getting better. You are twisting numbers and showing partial data to mislead people.

    And for lies, you have called me an Obama supporter, a typical obama supporter and a liberal. Those are lies.

    So there is my factual data and it is far from an attack. Just calling it what it is.
    You gave Gallup Numbers, BEA.gov, BLS.gov, and the Treasury give different data and are actual numbers. You do realize that Gallup is a polling service? Treasury is the bank account of the U.S.?

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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Is this the Harry Reid approach ? Show what number was "made up". Do you have such little grasp of issues that your only retort to facts you do not like is to claim it was "made up" ? Do you even know what the national debt is ?

    Show what was "made up" or shut up.
    I have asked you at least 5 times now to support this statement that you made. I have asked and asked and asked and you just keep deflecting.

    A number not included above is that the public debt per household is increasing at a rate of about $13,000. per year under Obama
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    re: Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    By raising taxes, many of those public sector jobs (teachers, police, firemen, etc) that were present during the Bush administration and lost their jobs in the recession could be rehired. The present 8.3% unemployment rate would probably be under the 8% if those jobs still existed.
    It isn't the Federal Government's responsibility to pay for teachers, police, and fire. Where did you get your education?

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