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    Re: Olympic Disqualification-Snoop King?

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    Ali didn't use the tactic to get himself a weaker opponent in his next match, your example is flawed. The Olympics committee was dead right to disqualify the badminton players who cheated.
    Conserving energy in early heats is NORMAL in many olympic sports and should NOT be viewed as cheating. If you look at REALITY, is it not VERY odd that TIRED swimmers/runners in later rounds score BETTER times than those same FRESH and RESTED swimmers/runners scored in the preliminary races? When presented with a schedule of opponenets one forms a strategy for use of their "best" efforts, this is done by ALL teams/individuals, expecially the USA basketball players, which lay back and conserve energy (and use less talented players) until they NEED to turn it up a bit. It is foolish to waste energy, risk injury and go all out when it gains you NOTHING toward the ultimate goal of winning the gold. This is not CHEATING it is common sense coaching.
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    Re: Olympic Disqualification-Snoop King?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Conserving energy in early heats is NORMAL in many olympic sports and should NOT be viewed as cheating. If you look at REALITY, is it not VERY odd that TIRED swimmers/runners in later rounds score BETTER times than those same FRESH and RESTED swimmers/runners scored in the preliminary races? When presented with a schedule of opponenets one forms a strategy for use of their "best" efforts, this is done by ALL teams/individuals, expecially the USA basketball players, which lay back and conserve energy (and use less talented players) until they NEED to turn it up a bit. It is foolish to waste energy, risk injury and go all out when it gains you NOTHING toward the ultimate goal of winning the gold. This is not CHEATING it is common sense coaching.
    I read your whole post three times and I am still at loss as to how it refers to the OP.

    Let's go with the swimmers. Are ou saying that the swimmers that go first in the prelims have a better chance to win the final because they are more rested? I am curious to know, even though it has ZERO relevance to the badminton story.
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    Re: Olympic Disqualification-Snoop King?

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    I read your whole post three times and I am still at loss as to how it refers to the OP.

    Let's go with the swimmers. Are ou saying that the swimmers that go first in the prelims have a better chance to win the final because they are more rested? I am curious to know, even though it has ZERO relevance to the badminton story.
    The mission of ALL olympic competition is to win the gold, or AT LEAST to place in the top three. The matche schedules are set up IN ADVANCE based on placements in the preliminary, or "qualifying" rounds. The MORONIC scheduling "ladder" used for badminton placements made it WISE to lose certain matches to assure an easier path to the final rounds. I am saying that in the preliminary rounds you seek only to advance to the next round, if that means simply finishing in the top (or bottom) keeps you in then that is your ONLY goal. In a double elimination you can win from EITHER the winner's or the loser's bracket, so your coach makes a decision on the best path, which MAY be the losers bracket, as you will get AT LEAST a bronze playing fewer matches but winning them all after the initial loss.

    In many events you need only be in the top three (of 8) to advance so why go "all out" if 3rd is as good as 1st? Conserving energy and not risking injury is a universal strategy. Marquise Goodwin (a long jumper and UT football player), for example, can jump 27 feet, yet "qualified" with a jump of only 21 feet in ONE attempt in the first round, while others may have had to make 3 tries to get "qualified", that sets him up better for the next round as he is more rested and he risked injury only once. It would be INSANE to set a record in the "qualifying" rounds if that taxed your strenght or caused an injury preventing you from winning (or even qualifying) druing the next round. Most olympic sports require many "wins" to get a chance at the medal round(s), so only a fool would go "all out" in each round.
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    Re: Olympic Disqualification-Snoop King?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Conserving energy in early heats is NORMAL in many olympic sports and should NOT be viewed as cheating. If you look at REALITY, is it not VERY odd that TIRED swimmers/runners in later rounds score BETTER times than those same FRESH and RESTED swimmers/runners scored in the preliminary races? When presented with a schedule of opponenets one forms a strategy for use of their "best" efforts, this is done by ALL teams/individuals, expecially the USA basketball players, which lay back and conserve energy (and use less talented players) until they NEED to turn it up a bit. It is foolish to waste energy, risk injury and go all out when it gains you NOTHING toward the ultimate goal of winning the gold. This is not CHEATING it is common sense coaching.
    They weren't trying to coast through early heats, they were trying to lose in order to avoid tougher matches. That's cheating - the end result was correct just as the Olympic organiser throwing Taoufik Makhloufi out today when he stopped running 200m into his 800 metre heat. Mind you, he has a chance for re-instatement if they can get a Dr's certificate to the umpires to prove he was "unwell."

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