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    Powerful NYC pol says she blasted Chick-fil-A as a citizen - but she used official le

    A politcian trying to use her position to try to run a business out of New York city. Weez don'ts wants your kind around here.


    Powerful NYC pol says she blasted Chick-fil-A as a citizen - but she used official letterhead | Fox News
    A powerful New York politician claims she was just speaking as a private citizen when she tried to run Chick-fil-A out of town, but she used her official letterhead and even invoked her position as City Council speaker to apply pressure on the embattled chicken chain.
    New York City Council Speaker Christine Quinn, who has mayoral aspirations, sent a letter to New York University president John Sexton on Saturday asking the school to immediately end their contract with the fast food restaurant. The Atlanta-based company's sole New York City outlet is in the school's food court.
    "I write as the Speaker of the NYC Council, and on behalf of my family. NYC is a place where we celebrate diversity. We do not believe in denigrating others. We revel in the diversity of all our citizens and their families,” the letter begins.
    "Let me be clear ‐‐ I do not want establishments in my city that hold such discriminatory views," Quinn, an open lesbian who recently married her longtime partner, also wrote in the letter. "We are a city that believes our diversity is our greatest strength and we will fight anything and anyone that runs counter to that."

    “As such I urge you to sever your relationship with the Chick‐fil‐A establishment that exists on your campus,” the speaker added.
    The letter has drawn the ire from others on the council.
    “She can write to someone as a council member, but if she states that she is writing as the Speaker it can only be on behalf of the entire council. She has to have the majority vote of the council, and I don’t recall voting on this matter,” City Councilman Peter Vallone (D-Queens) told FoxNews.com. “A stance on gay marriage is in no way a forum to prevent someone form running a business in a community.
    “If we allow something like this, then the next letter might be concerning someone’s view on abortion.”
    A spokesperson for Quinn told FoxNews.com in a written statement that, while officials in other cities have said they would block Chick-fil-A through land-use means, Quinn was just expressing her own views.
    “Christine Quinn was simply voicing her own opinion; she fully understands that Mr. Cathy has the right to say and donate to anything he wants. But she has the right to use her voice just as much as he does,” Quinn’s spokesperson added.
    The speaker elaborated on her stance and seemingly backpedaled while speaking with reporters at an event in midtown Manhattan on Tuesday.
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    Re: Powerful NYC pol says she blasted Chick-fil-A as a citizen - but she used officia

    The quote from the OP. " I write as the Speaker of the NYC Council, and on behalf of my family."
    makes it very clear she is speaking from her political position and not just her personal views.

    "Let me be clear ‐‐ I do not want establishments in my city that hold such discriminatory views,"

    and this is why we are moving towards gridlock at all levels of govt. You can't have opposing views according to some.

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    Re: Powerful NYC pol says she blasted Chick-fil-A as a citizen - but she used officia

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    The quote from the OP. " I write as the Speaker of the NYC Council, and on behalf of my family."
    makes it very clear she is speaking from her political position and not just her personal views.

    "Let me be clear ‐‐ I do not want establishments in my city that hold such discriminatory views,"

    and this is why we are moving towards gridlock at all levels of govt. You can't have opposing views according to some.
    Yep. You are "free" to have any opinion that the high and mighty gov't officials "evolve" to agree with, or they will ATTEMPT to deny you setting up a business, residence or using any gov't services in THEIR jurisdiction. The "liberal" gov't will accept no opposing "bigots", even if the opposing "bigots" are simply for keeping and obeying the current law. Yes they can!
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    Re: Powerful NYC pol says she blasted Chick-fil-A as a citizen - but she used officia

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Yep. You are "free" to have any opinion that they evolve to agree with, or they will ATTEMPT to deny you setting up a business, residence or using any gov't services in THEIR jurisdiction. The "liberal" gov't will accept no opposing "bigots", even if the opposing "bigots" are simply for keeping and obeying the current law. Yes they can!
    I have an idea. Maybe we can wall off New York from the rest of the US. All biased politicians are moved into NY. Than regulate soda cup size, religious views, etc. Gives new meaning to Escape from New York, for the general population

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    Re: Powerful NYC pol says she blasted Chick-fil-A as a citizen - but she used officia

    Why does the religious views of any business owner or CEO matter when considering permits to allow a business into a city? Apparently some fell that it should. Is there any religion that some people do not like some of it's stances? Many people have issues with the stance of Atheism, which appears more and more like the religious choice of our government that it is bent on forcing it on all of us. This business owner expressed his religious views, which shouldn't of been a big supprise and his company has always let it be know that they were a "Christian" business. Now people, some in government, are attempting to regulate the riligious believes expressed by business owners. Is this the path that we as a society really want to take? What next, zone out all churches that refuse to change their believes on the subject of homosexuality and same sex marriage? Take away their tax free status as a Religious organization if they happen to disagree with political stances?

    No governmental agency or level of Government should be taking actions based upon the expressed religious beliefs of business owners. The owner of Chick Fil A clearly expressed it as a religious belief. If communities really feel that it is wrong, the busniness will do poorly and close anyways. Perhaps I am wrong, but I do seem to remember something in the Constitution that refers to Freedom of Religion.

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    Re: Powerful NYC pol says she blasted Chick-fil-A as a citizen - but she used officia

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Why does the religious views of any business owner or CEO matter when considering permits to allow a business into a city? Apparently some fell that it should. Is there any religion that some people do not like some of it's stances? Many people have issues with the stance of Atheism, which appears more and more like the religious choice of our government that it is bent on forcing it on all of us. This business owner expressed his religious views, which shouldn't of been a big supprise and his company has always let it be know that they were a "Christian" business. Now people, some in government, are attempting to regulate the riligious believes expressed by business owners. Is this the path that we as a society really want to take? What next, zone out all churches that refuse to change their believes on the subject of homosexuality and same sex marriage? Take away their tax free status as a Religious organization if they happen to disagree with political stances?

    No governmental agency or level of Government should be taking actions based upon the expressed religious beliefs of business owners. The owner of Chick Fil A clearly expressed it as a religious belief. If communities really feel that it is wrong, the busniness will do poorly and close anyways. Perhaps I am wrong, but I do seem to remember something in the Constitution that refers to Freedom of Religion.
    What the libtards want is freedom from religion. They express desires for legal SSM, yet not for legal polygamy, prostitution or recreational drug use. It is a MISSION for some to simply change the state marriage law (I have no problem with that attitude), some of the loonier libtards even wish to assert that SSM marriage is a NOW a federal issue or even a NEW constituional right. Those that do not wish to join the rainbow parade, and simply support the current law (as even the president did until mere weeks ago) are NOW designated as "bigots" or "haters" except, of course any that are black, they are simply ignored since they will vote "properly" no matter what the demorats say in their party platform (wink, wink). "Evolving positions" are now seen "good", as politicians that "come around" are somehow good, but those that say what they mean, and mean what they say, are not to be "trusted" to represent the people. USA, USA, USA...
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    Re: Powerful NYC pol says she blasted Chick-fil-A as a citizen - but she used officia

    Fox is Johnny-on-the-spot defending homophobia masking as 'religion.'

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    Re: Powerful NYC pol says she blasted Chick-fil-A as a citizen - but she used officia

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Fox is Johnny-on-the-spot defending homophobia masking as 'religion.'
    LOL, ok, whatever. Yet, other media outlets that support the libtard (to borrow the term from ttwtt...) view point are of course unbiased and absolutely factual and true everytime, in your opinion? Lets take the whole "homophobia" thing. Homo is of course refering to homosexuals, even though the use of that term is considered evil, and phobia refers to an irrational fear. Yet Libral media wants to paint everyone not agreeing with the liberal agenda on homosexuality as a "homophobe". I certainly do not support the "normalization" of homosexuality, as I do not believe that it is normal or natural, and I don't base that on religious beliefs. I am also against same sex marriage, as I see it as them just wanting to gain such things as tax relieve and benefits normally given to married couples. Because of that, I guess you and others will label me a "homophobe", but I have no fear, rational or unrational, of being homosexual or of homosexuals. From my point of view, I simply think they suffer from an abberation of normal sexual desires and should be cured if possible, but I do not promote going around harrassing them or violence against them. So while I do not support SSM, I am neither a homophobe or "gay basher" and it has nothing to do with my religious views or Fox News.

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    Re: Powerful NYC pol says she blasted Chick-fil-A as a citizen - but she used officia

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Fox is Johnny-on-the-spot defending homophobia masking as 'religion.'
    maybe.
    If you don't like the political/social views of a business, you are free to not purchase the product or service from them.
    By doing so with the help of other consumers the business will go broke and not be an issue.

    What other issues do you want the govt to kick businesses out of a town/state because it conflicts with your views on that issue?.

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    Re: Powerful NYC pol says she blasted Chick-fil-A as a citizen - but she used officia

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    maybe.
    If you don't like the political/social views of a business, you are free to not purchase the product or service from them.
    By doing so with the help of other consumers the business will go broke and not be an issue.

    What other issues do you want the govt to kick businesses out of a town/state because it conflicts with your views on that issue?.
    I don't have the power to kick a business out of town.

    But if you did eat at Chick-Fil-A and things didn't work out -- you may want to report them here --> Chick-Fil-A | Got Food Poisoning ?

    This is me using my free speech power to help keep you better informed about the potential danger of eating at Chick-Fil-A. I've see that link a hundred times today on Facebook. It appears that for a minority of Chick-Fil-A customers, the meal results in painful food poisoning.

    Can't be too careful.

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