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    Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Good for Chick-fil-A.


    Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters | Fox News
    It used to be that taking a bite of a chicken sandwich just meant you were hungry. Now it has become a symbol of whether you stand for or against same-sex marriage, or – alternately – the right to express your personal views without fear of retaliation.
    At Chick-fil-A locations across the country, people voted with their wallets today, coming out to express support for the fast-food chain after CEO Dan Cathy said in an interview that he is a firm backer of traditional marriage.
    “I believe what the Bible says (about marriage),” Chauncy Fields told us after wolfing down a breakfast of chicken and biscuits. “So I came out here to support Chick-fil-A and the movement.”
    Chris Johnson sees a double standard. “He (Dan Cathy) said the exact same thing that President Obama said,” Johnson told Fox News -- referring to the president’s past opposition to gay marriage – “And he gets negativity, and Obama gets positivity.”
    At one Atlanta location, the restaurant was packed, while the line for the drive-thru looped twice around the building and out into the street.

    The backlash across the country against Chick-fil-A has been ferocious. After the mayors of Chicago and Boston heaped scorn upon the company, the mayor of Washington, DC, suggested it was peddling “hate chicken.”
    Those comments drew a sharp response from Rev. William Owens of the Coalition of African American Pastors. “Some people are saying that because of the position that Chick-fil-A is taking, they don’t want them in their cities. It is a disgrace. It is the same thing that happened when I was marching for civil rights, when they didn’t want a black to come into their restaurant," he told a press conference in Washington, DC.
    The Chick-fil-A firestorm has taken on different meanings for different people. For some, it harks to the days of intolerance and segregation. For others, it is about religious views of marriage. But for most people who Fox News spoke to today, it is about free speech.
    “I think it comes down to a First Amendment issue. I mean, I do believe in the traditional values of marriage between a man and a woman,” youth pastor Stephen Lenahan told Fox News after a leisurely breakfast with three members of his ministry. He is also puzzled as to why Dan Cathy is such a target, when other corporate CEOs who openly support same-sex marriage are not similarly criticized by conservatives.
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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    I don't understand why this is an issue. Why protest or support? Some dude ran his mouth about his beliefs. Who the **** cares? It's a free country. Chick-Fil-A wasn't discriminating, was it? It wasn't breaking any law, was it? Then this is a non-issue. Some dude ran his mouth, that's all there is to it. Don't like it, don't go. But to turn this into a mountain is stupid. In a free country people are going to say all sorts of things, ain't no point getting all bent out of shape over every damned thing that is said that you don't agree with.
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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Good for Chick-fil-A.


    Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters | Fox News
    It used to be that taking a bite of a chicken sandwich just meant you were hungry. Now it has become a symbol of whether you stand for or against same-sex marriage, or – alternately – the right to express your personal views without fear of retaliation.
    At Chick-fil-A locations across the country, people voted with their wallets today, coming out to express support for the fast-food chain after CEO Dan Cathy said in an interview that he is a firm backer of traditional marriage.
    “I believe what the Bible says (about marriage),” Chauncy Fields told us after wolfing down a breakfast of chicken and biscuits. “So I came out here to support Chick-fil-A and the movement.”
    Chris Johnson sees a double standard. “He (Dan Cathy) said the exact same thing that President Obama said,” Johnson told Fox News -- referring to the president’s past opposition to gay marriage – “And he gets negativity, and Obama gets positivity.”
    At one Atlanta location, the restaurant was packed, while the line for the drive-thru looped twice around the building and out into the street.

    The backlash across the country against Chick-fil-A has been ferocious. After the mayors of Chicago and Boston heaped scorn upon the company, the mayor of Washington, DC, suggested it was peddling “hate chicken.”
    Those comments drew a sharp response from Rev. William Owens of the Coalition of African American Pastors. “Some people are saying that because of the position that Chick-fil-A is taking, they don’t want them in their cities. It is a disgrace. It is the same thing that happened when I was marching for civil rights, when they didn’t want a black to come into their restaurant," he told a press conference in Washington, DC.
    The Chick-fil-A firestorm has taken on different meanings for different people. For some, it harks to the days of intolerance and segregation. For others, it is about religious views of marriage. But for most people who Fox News spoke to today, it is about free speech.
    “I think it comes down to a First Amendment issue. I mean, I do believe in the traditional values of marriage between a man and a woman,” youth pastor Stephen Lenahan told Fox News after a leisurely breakfast with three members of his ministry. He is also puzzled as to why Dan Cathy is such a target, when other corporate CEOs who openly support same-sex marriage are not similarly criticized by conservatives.
    You'd think a jew like Emanuel would know better then to try and isolate someone on religious grounds for persecution.
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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You'd think a jew like Emanuel would know better then to try and isolate someone on religious grounds for persecution.
    He's the mayor of Chicago, he thinks himself a king.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    The one running their mouth off that made this a national issue wasn't the restaurant owner (Cathy), but The mayor of Chicago (Rahm Emanuel), Obama's former COS.

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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You'd think a jew like Emanuel would know better then to try and isolate someone on religious grounds for persecution.
    I love how bigots always try to claim "persecution" whenever they are forced to live with the consequences of their stupidity and ignorance.

    Free Speech doesn't mean the freedom to live without repercussions....it simply means that you have the right to speak your mind.
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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You'd think a jew like Emanuel would know better then to try and isolate someone on religious grounds for persecution.
    Didn't you just isolate him as a Jew? Either way thats a stupid statement to make, its like saying you'd think a black guy would support gay marriage because black people suffered intolerance. Fact is, not all African Americans support gay marriage. Just because someone was, or is part of a group, that once suffered persecution doesn't mean they are incapable of it or that it is inconceivable they would do it. Its like saying as an individualist you'd think you wouldn't put so much value into someone's wider identity like their race, religion, etc but here you are doing it.

    Additionally you fail to realize the two sides of this issue, sure Emanuel is striking out against Chik-Fil-A for its non-support of gay marriage and thus is persecuting them for their religious affiliations, but one could argue that is because Chik-Fil-A's owner is persecuting people himself. Who's the persecutor? Emanuel? Chik-Fil-A? Both? Neither? The answer isn't so clear cut because it depends on one's personal perspective of what is acceptable view points and what is not, and it depends on if one believes its acceptable to persecute a persecutor. And that depends on how one defines persecution, after all I doubt you would say that those who don't support equal rights for homosexuals are persecuting them, whereas I would regardless if the motivation was religious or not, simply because your motivation is religious doesn't mean the action cannot be persecution by default.

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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I love how bigots always try to claim "persecution" whenever they are forced to live with the consequences of their stupidity and ignorance.

    Free Speech doesn't mean the freedom to live without repercussions....it simply means that you have the right to speak your mind.
    True, however in this case Boston and Chicago are using government force against him for things he has said. Certainly in the private sector what you say can come back to you, but the witch hunt Emanuel is going to on this one, as the representative of the local government, is an act of tyranny and a direct infringement of rights. You cannot stop people from coming or going to the restaurant, but you cannot use government force to keep them out.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I love how bigots always try to claim "persecution" whenever they are forced to live with the consequences of their stupidity and ignorance.

    Free Speech doesn't mean the freedom to live without repercussions....it simply means that you have the right to speak your mind.
    So Rahm Emanuel is a bigot.

    My irony meter just exploded.
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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I don't understand why this is an issue. Why protest or support? Some dude ran his mouth about his beliefs. Who the **** cares? It's a free country. Chick-Fil-A wasn't discriminating, was it? It wasn't breaking any law, was it? Then this is a non-issue. Some dude ran his mouth, that's all there is to it. Don't like it, don't go. But to turn this into a mountain is stupid. In a free country people are going to say all sorts of things, ain't no point getting all bent out of shape over every damned thing that is said that you don't agree with.
    I don't think it had much to do with supporting an issue or not. Think this really stems from the knee jerk reaction of Menino and Emmanuel. Some new additions include NYC Counsel Speaker sending a request to NYU asking them to kick Chick Fil-A off their campus. She claims it was the her as private citizen but she sent the letter on city letterhead and signed it as the Speaker of the NYC Counsel.

    Tweet form the San Fran mayor as follows: "Closest #ChickFilA to San Francisco is 40 miles away & I strongly recommend that they not try to come any closer." That looks like a friggin threat.

    Personally, I'm in favor of gay marriage or at the very least scrubbing the term marriage from all federal law and replacing with civil union while protecting religious institutions from litigation if they don't perform same sex ceremonies. But support freedom of speech above that.

    Plus, Chick Fil-A's food and service ROCK! Service wise, they're on par w/ In and Out in the fast food category.

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