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Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

MaggieD said:
Link for this? I quickly scanned their website and found nothing even remotely suggesting that. Maybe I missed it? Never mind. Google is my friend. ;)

And they do claim a connection between homosexuality and pedophilia. No doubt. Are we sure they're wrong? Is it possible that pedophilia is committed much more often by homosexual males? I don't know. We know one thing for sure: pedophiles are incurable.
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Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation

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hazlnut said:
Their's is a twisted version of 'religion.' They are like the WBC.
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Before anyone wants to say "no one's talking about Chick-Fil-A being like WBC", I will point this out and note that it's in response specifically to someone talking about what "Mr Cathy" said.
 
Sarcogito said:
I don't know man. I agree this whole thing has been blown out of proportion. It was one guy expressing his opinion. If people don't want to eat there for it fine. I won't be eating there. I'm not going to begrudge anyone who does eat there.

BUT, being against SSM sure does seem anti-gay to me. Is it racist to be against inter-racial marriage? If you can say no I will still disagree with you but at least your belief would be consistent.
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Interracial marriage and homosexual marriage is 2 different things...I shouldnt have to explain that to you....being against homosexual marriage is not anti gay...its against marriage except for one man and one woman...
 
digsbe said:
Nah, the view that because government officials disagree with an owner over his personal views that they somehow have the right to use the law and punish your business.
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Which they haven't done. They expressed their opinion, which is also their right.
 
StillBallin75 said:
Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation

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Let me ask a question...if a male pedophile only molests male kids is he homosexual also....because there are pedophiles that molest both...and males pedophiles that only molest female kids....sandusky only molested males as an example
 
lpast said:
Interracial marriage and homosexual marriage is 2 different things...I shouldnt have to explain that to you....being against homosexual marriage is not anti gay...its against marriage except for one man and one woman...
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It seems rather anti-gay to me. At the end of the day, you're denying them equality, to have the rights and priviledges we have to marry who we love, who we're attacked to, among non-related consenting adults of the same specices.
 
Zyphlin said:
If people are simply talking about FRC, then I have less of an issue. However, last I checked FRC isn't running "chicken shops" which was where I first saw the attempt to compare Chick-Fil-A to Nazi's and Westboro.

With regards to the "good" things, I was listing FRC as one such group as I've heard some complaining about Chick-Fil-A as them donating to "multiple" so I imagine there are more than just the FRC. I'll be forthright in stating I don't know a ton about the FRC and all I've reliably found so far is the SPLC blurb on them which, to be fair as it's my general stance that regardless of side places that seem to have a specific agenda are ones I don't immedietely just take as 100% gospel, is largely unsourced and the few sources they have are sourcing themselves. So my comments regarding the man/some were off base, and poorly got across my actual point in my head which was that there can be a difference between giving money to a group DUE to the hateful things they do and due to other things they do despite the hateful one. Now, that's not suggesting either thing is good as ultimately you're still aiding a group doing a hateful things, and I get that...but when talking about intensity and level of culpability and the amount of hate rightfully put towards an individual or group, I think such a notion is important. When one is attempting to place hateful actions done by a group 2 or 3 steps down the line from Chick-Fil-A proper back onto Chick-Fil-A DIRECTLY...such as in the suggestion its "hate chicken"...then that to me matters a bit on the level at which such criticisms should be cast.
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Here's a video of the FRC's leaders making some hateful, and nonfactual statements.

 
Zyphlin said:
When one is attempting to place hateful actions done by a group 2 or 3 steps down the line from Chick-Fil-A proper back onto Chick-Fil-A DIRECTLY...such as in the suggestion its "hate chicken"...then that to me matters a bit on the level at which such criticisms should be cast.
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If the connection were unclear, I'd be more inclined to agree. But this guy is the CEO of the company and he gives big bucks to these organizations. In addition, he's defiant and outspoken about his (and Chick-Fil-A's) support of discriminatory laws. If it was just some VP of Accounting who was giving some of his personal salary to questionable groups and he didn't represent the organization as a whole, I think that would be a very different conversation.
 
Boo Radley said:
It seems rather anti-gay to me. At the end of the day, you're denying them equality, to have the rights and priviledges we have to marry who we love, who we're attacked to, among non-related consenting adults of the same specices.
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Think what you want...thats why there were so many people supporting chika fil...obviously im not alone....but in the end if people call me names for my opinion like bigot and homophobe...I will have a response for them :) and im sure they wont like it like I dont like their empty accusations
 
lpast said:
Let me ask a question...if a male pedophile only molests male kids is he homosexual also....because there are pedophiles that molest both...and males pedophiles that only molest female kids....sandusky only molested males as an example
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The attraction to children is a different thing than homosexuality. The male who abuses children doesn't tarnish hetorsexuality for example. It is the pedophile and not all of heterosexuality that is to blame.
 
Zyphlin said:
Before anyone wants to say "no one's talking about Chick-Fil-A being like WBC", I will point this out and note that it's in response specifically to someone talking about what "Mr Cathy" said.
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What Cathy said is watered down WBC, I said that earlier in the thread and other threads.

I double down on that.

I triple down on that.

People who ate at Chik-Fil-A are less than six degrees from Fred Phelps and the WBC.

Yes.

Quadrouple down. What is fives-times down? Don't know, but I do it... right now!!
 
lpast said:
Think what you want...thats why there were so many people supporting chika fil...obviously im not alone....but in the end if people call me names for my opinion like bigot and homophobe...I will have a response for them :) and im sure they wont like it like I dont like their empty accusations
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I think being for homosexual marriage is freakish...see I can put any label I want on YOUR OPINION too:)
 
rocket88 said:
Which they haven't done. They expressed their opinion, which is also their right.
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I think saying they will use their governmental powers and the powers of the local governments to stop the business from expanding into their cities is just a bit more than "expressing their opion". Setting their city governments stance and asking for policy is definitely more.
 
Kandahar said:
The Southern Poverty Law Center classifies them as a hate group. Here are a few of their gems:
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I just have to laugh in sadness as the way some of these people think...

“homosexuals are less likely to enter into a committed relationship” and “less likely to be sexually faithful to a partner.”

Gee...you don't think, even if this was true, that there could be any outside factor beyond them simply being "gay" that could play into this? I don't know...like perhaps society telling them that their committed relationships are less important than other peoples committed relationships, or could bring about the wrath of god on people, and is a sinful horrible thing that they shouldn't engage in? You don't think, if this stat was even true, that perhaps societal actions could maybe have a LITTLE impact on it rather than it all being due to them being THE GAYZ!
 
hazlnut said:
What Cathy said is watered down WBC, I said that earlier in the thread and other threads.

I double down on that.

I triple down on that.

People who ate at Chik-Fil-A are less than six degrees from Fred Phelps and the WBC.

Yes.

Quadrouple down. What is fives-times down? Don't know, but I do it... right now!!
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Going to Chick-Fil-A right now then!!!

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lpast said:
Let me ask a question...if a male pedophile only molests male kids is he homosexual also....because there are pedophiles that molest both...and males pedophiles that only molest female kids....sandusky only molested males as an example
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The short answer is no. It makes him a pedophile, but not a homosexual - they are two different pathologies. Those are two separate things. Keep in mind also that Sandusky was straight and married.
 
Zyphlin said:
Before anyone wants to say "no one's talking about Chick-Fil-A being like WBC", I will point this out and note that it's in response specifically to someone talking about what "Mr Cathy" said.
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See post #259. The comparison to the WBC was specifically because others were claiming that it didn't MATTER what Cathy said; they were just supporting free speech.
 
lpast said:
Think what you want...thats why there were so many people supporting chika fil...obviously im not alone....but in the end if people call me names for my opinion like bigot and homophobe...I will have a response for them :) and im sure they wont like it like I dont like their empty accusations
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Alone? Never said you were. But that has nothing to do with what I said. Being homosexual still has a stigma today, though it is shrinking I think. And I don't see it about name callin, but being as truthful as possible. I don't see how you can deny good people equal rights and not be discriminating, and at the core of such discirmination is likely a bigotted view of the people you're denying. In that way, it is equal to aversion to inter racial marriage.
 
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What the anti-gay so-called Christians don't get -- YOU ALL are a watered down version of Fred Phelps. In same minor fashion you are just like the WBC.

You can act all disgusted by WBC protests, but what Cathy said is a slightly less hateful version of Fred Phelps 'God Hates Fags'.

Chik-Fil-A is watered down WBC. Enjoy your meal!! Come again!!
 
lpast said:
Interracial marriage and homosexual marriage is 2 different things
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Explain the distinction please.

I shouldnt have to explain that to you....being against homosexual marriage is not anti gay...its against marriage except for one man and one woman...
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You could use the same logic to justify nearly any form of legal discrimination.
 
lpast said:
Let me ask a question...if a male pedophile only molests male kids is he homosexual also
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I don't know. Is he sexually attracted to females?

Is he actually sexually attracted to the boys? Or is he sexually attracted to the power, seeming purity, and the taboo nature of the act and just happens to have more access to boys?

Is he sexually attracted to adult men?

There's not really a simple answer to your question baesd only on what you've stated

None of which really affecting the notion that somehow gays are more likely to molest children.
 
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