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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Because laws can only be made by legislation or constitutional amendment, not merely by the current "feelings" of the SCOTUS. What is the use of haovng laws if they may chage without any legislative acton? If the courts and the executive are free to "interpret" them AS THEY PLEASE then they have no real weight at all. There are defined prodecures for making laws and amending the constitution for good reasons and those prcedures/laws should be respected as well.
    They looked at the law and not feelings.

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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Your Star answered you pretty well. It wasn't judicial activism. It was proper judicial review. You can't break laws because you don't like something. If the Constitution says you can't discriminate, then you can't. Frankly, it's none of your buisness who I marry. And only I can define and honor my marriage. The majority has no role in it.
    So, in other words, SSM was legal for a long, long time in Iowa, they just did not know it. If the U.S. Constitution says that "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" then it means UNLESS the state wants to make you take a class, pass a test and charge a fee to keep (rent?) that right. Is it not amazing that laws, that we thought were quite clear, must be "interpreted", possibly many decades later, to become what they were REALLY meant to say? ;-)
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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    So, in other words, SSM was legal for a long, long time in Iowa, they just did not know it. If the U.S. Constitution says that "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" then it means UNLESS the state wants to make you take a class, pass a test and charge you a fee. Is it not amazing that laws, that we thought were quite clear, must be "interpreted", possibly many decades later, to say what they REALLY meant to say? ;-)
    It should have been, and likely would have been had it been brought before the court. Both sides look at the law and make arguments. The court listens, looks at the alw and decides. You lose, make a better argument. Don't whine. Don't pretend that it was activism.

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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Your Star answered you pretty well. It wasn't judicial activism. It was proper judicial review. You can't break laws because you don't like something. If the Constitution says you can't discriminate, then you can't. Frankly, it's none of your buisness who I marry. And only I can define and honor my marriage. The majority has no role in it.
    Great post!!

    Meanwhile droves of people are patting themselves on the back because they went out for chicken yesterday. Do they really understand what they are supporting?

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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    It boggles my mind that so many people give a rat's ass what causes the owner of a fast food chain believes in. That is so far down the list of reasons why I would or wouldn't go to a restaurant that it has never once come into consideration.
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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    They looked at the law and not feelings.
    Since the SAME words were used to justify BOTH SCOTUS decisions on "separate but equal", as no change to the Constitution occurred between the two OPPOSITE rulings, then what, other than feelings, made the difference?
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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    It boggles my mind that so many people give a rat's ass what causes the owner of a fast food chain believes in. That is so far down the list of reasons why I would or wouldn't go to a restaurant that it has never once come into consideration.
    I'm pretty sure that hardly anyone cares what the owner of a fast food chain believes in which is the mayors of Boston and Chicago were supported by hardly anyone.

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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Great post!!

    Meanwhile droves of people are patting themselves on the back because they went out for chicken yesterday. Do they really understand what they are supporting?
    Um, that was an Iowa constitional decision, not the SCOTUS and the U.S. Constitution. Eat mor chick'n!
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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    It boggles my mind that so many people give a rat's ass what causes the owner of a fast food chain believes in. That is so far down the list of reasons why I would or wouldn't go to a restaurant that it has never once come into consideration.
    The profits from the business go to negative bigoted lobby groups that further a twisted and anti-American version of Christianity.

    If you believe in the philosophy and teachings of Christ you defend it by not engaging in or supporting intolerance.

    I don't like that Dan Cathy is just a watered-down Fred Phelps -- "God will smite us for being tolerant toward gays"-- that is the notion he put forward.

    If you find Fred Phelps and WBC disgusting, then how do you feel about the people only a notch down on the bigot ladder?
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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Since the SAME words were used to justify BOTH SCOTUS decisions on "separate but equal", as no change to the Constitution occurred between the two OPPOSITE rulings, then what, other than feelings, made the difference?
    Again, people make arguments. Someone made a better argument. If words we so concrete that we all compeltely understood their meaning, there would be no need for judicial review. Sadly, they are not.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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