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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I believe DOMA was ruled unconstitutional in MA because it violates the state of MA's right to define marriage (where SSM is legal).

    Many states have constitutionally defined marriage that excludes homosexual relationships, all but California had legal rulings against the. SSM is a state's rights issue and as the Constitution is currently written it does not guarantee homosexual marriage as a Constitutional right.
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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Your wrong on the first part, and as for the second part I didn't know you were against humor? It was more of a joke about Fred Phelps than me, seriously stop trying to be offended by things, or get upset at people for not agreeing with you on every exact little thing, for not bowing down to your opinions. Seriously it's what you complain about all the damn time, but you are the worst offender of what you supposedly hate. Those in glass houses buddy, those in glass houses.
    This can be said in defense of Chick-fil-A's CEO's opinion.

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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I believe DOMA was ruled unconstitutional in MA because it violates the state of MA's right to define marriage (where SSM is legal).

    Many states have constitutionally defined marriage that excludes homosexual relationships, all but California had legal rulings against the. SSM is a state's rights issue and as the Constitution is currently written it does not guarantee homosexual marriage as a Constitutional right.
    I don't think those are the only two states. The courts ruled in favor of same sex marriage here in Iowa, and I'm sure we've seen more than one here. When I have time I'll look for the numbers.

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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Read the 14th Amendment and you will realize that SSM is a constitutional right.
    Which begs the question if sexuality is protected. I don't think that the 14th Amendment can be used to force homosexual marriages to be legal. DOMA was ruled unconstitutional because it violates a state's rights to define marriage.
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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    This can be said in defense of Chick-fil-A's CEO's opinion.
    Not really, what he said was pretty vile.
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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Which begs the question if sexuality is protected. I don't think that the 14th Amendment can be used to force homosexual marriages to be legal. DOMA was ruled unconstitutional because it violates a state's rights to define marriage.
    First off, it is a gender discrimination, and also please elaborate on your first point. First off sexuality is protected, but why would it not be a reason to allow SSM be legal?
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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That's why SSM keeps winning in the courts.
    If you mean "winning in the courts" as marriage contract law being upheld as a right of the state to establish the rules and forcing states to honor ALL marriage contracts issued in ANY other state then I agree.
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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Not really, what he said was pretty vile.
    Yes really. "Seriously stop trying to be offended by things, or get upset at people for not agreeing with you on every exact little thing, for not bowing down to your opinions" can be said to all of those who are attacking him and Chick-fil-A because of his opinion. Fair is fair, correct? I don't think his opinion is vile, either. I acknowledge that not everyone is in lock-step, supporting GM.

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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    If you mean "winning in the courts" as marriage contract law being upheld as a right of the state to establish the rules and forcing states to honor ALL marriage contracts issued in ANY other state then I agree.
    No, I mean Iowa's law against it was struck down by the courts. They are not the only state this has happened in.

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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    First off, it is a gender discrimination, and also please elaborate on your first point. First off sexuality is protected, but why would it not be a reason to allow SSM be legal?
    Gender discrimination is technically legal within certain bounds. The only way the gender discrimination argument would hold legal clout is of the Equal Rights Amendment was amended, and that Amendment failed.
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