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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    What hateful things does the FRC do? I don't see it.
    Was largely going with the posters premise and showing even if accepting his premise, the idea that is should be equivilent or significantly viewed on a similar level as still wrong.

    That said...IF the things I've read as criticisms to the group and it's head guy are true (which ironically, they complain about the lack of peer review of some of the things FRC has put out...while the page I'm looking at has them not sourcing their claims against them at all) then I'd likely agree. It's one thing to feel that same sex couples should not be granted additional governmental privledges for marriage...it's another thing to suggest that homosexuality be made a crime or suggesting that gays and single people should be taxed heavily for their failure to have children, not to mention pushing the notion that the primary reason there's a push for protecting homosexual rights is simply “seeking to legitimize child-adult homosexual sex.”

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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    your issue appears to be with the family research council not with chick fil a. Chick fil a gives money to the winshape foundation. The winshape foundation makes donations to huge list of charities many of which are christian based. They also give millions to helping the poor, help homeless kids find permanent homes, puts kids through college, and much more. The winshape foundation has made america a better place.

    As far as their involvement with the family research council have you really looked into that? I am curious because from what I was able to find Winshape donated $1000 to them in 2009. Futhermore the FRC does more than just oppress gay people. They oppose gay marriage, abortion, divorce, stem cell research and pornography. Whether Mr. Cathy believes in all those things or some or all of their practices they use to promote their message we dont really know. All anyone around here wants to do is assume since he gave them 1000 dollars out of 9 million that he donated to what he thinks will help make the world a better place is he is doing to oppress gays. For all you know all he opposes as far as gays is them being allowed to be married. He may support civil unions, and fully rights to gay couple under that heading, and support all other gay rights. But so many only see what they want.
    No, my issue is with any person or entity that supports, financially or otherwise, groups that spread unjust hateful messages and support arbitrary discrimination against other groups. Chik Fil A and its CEO among other members fit that bill. Furthermore, the FRC is not the only intolerant group that the Winshape foundation has donated to. Exodus International, the NCF, the FCA and other groups are similar in nature.

    I understand that these groups help other individuals, but that help does undo the harm that they do. Other more intensely hateful groups like the KKK did good things for their communities and for other people. Those good actions don't erase their hateful ones.
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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Get this through your head. Their's is a twisted version of 'religion.' They are like the WBC.

    Christ NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY.

    The CORE MESSAGE of CHRIST is LOVE AND TOLERANCE.
    i can respect that statment. its the "invisible man in the sky" bit you keep pitching that i have a problem with.
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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    The Southern Poverty Law Center classifies them as a hate group. Here are a few of their gems:
    Sickening.

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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Link for this? I quickly scanned their website and found nothing even remotely suggesting that. Maybe I missed it? Never mind. Google is my friend.

    And they do claim a connection between homosexuality and pedophilia. No doubt. Are we sure they're wrong? Is it possible that pedophilia is committed much more often by homosexual males? I don't know. We know one thing for sure: pedophiles are incurable.
    Homosexuality and pedophilia are two very different things.


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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Sickening.
    First words that came to my mind were ignorant and idiotic.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    i can respect that statment. its the "invisible man in the sky" bit you keep pitching that i have a problem with.

    Wish I could take credit, but it's a Ricky Gervais bit.

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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    Oh so he was "running his mouth" was he.

    He wasn't talking about a political issue with his so-called right to free speech, he was "running his mouth". mmmmhmmmm.
    "Tomato"

    "Tom-ah-to"

    Running your mouth is excercising free speech. It's only a First Amendment issue if the government gets involved.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectStorm View Post
    So you're saying the mayors were pandering?
    They are politicians, aren't they?


    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    I don't think people have been comparing Chik Fil A to those entities. I think they've compared FRC to those groups - which is understandable. And it doesn't matter if FRC does "good things."
    If people are simply talking about FRC, then I have less of an issue. However, last I checked FRC isn't running "chicken shops" which was where I first saw the attempt to compare Chick-Fil-A to Nazi's and Westboro.

    With regards to the "good" things, I was listing FRC as one such group as I've heard some complaining about Chick-Fil-A as them donating to "multiple" so I imagine there are more than just the FRC. I'll be forthright in stating I don't know a ton about the FRC and all I've reliably found so far is the SPLC blurb on them which, to be fair as it's my general stance that regardless of side places that seem to have a specific agenda are ones I don't immedietely just take as 100% gospel, is largely unsourced and the few sources they have are sourcing themselves. So my comments regarding the man/some were off base, and poorly got across my actual point in my head which was that there can be a difference between giving money to a group DUE to the hateful things they do and due to other things they do despite the hateful one. Now, that's not suggesting either thing is good as ultimately you're still aiding a group doing a hateful things, and I get that...but when talking about intensity and level of culpability and the amount of hate rightfully put towards an individual or group, I think such a notion is important. When one is attempting to place hateful actions done by a group 2 or 3 steps down the line from Chick-Fil-A proper back onto Chick-Fil-A DIRECTLY...such as in the suggestion its "hate chicken"...then that to me matters a bit on the level at which such criticisms should be cast.

    -edit-

    Thanks Khand for another link. I'm somewhat annoyed that their siting of things is done without any kind of link and without any kind of significant layout to make it simple to actually research and look up, but at least in that link rather than the first one I found they do site. However, it's all mostly the pedophile stuff (Which I view as hateful, but largely ignorant as well). The thing I'm curious about is their statement regarding their head guy claiming homosexuality should be illegal...that one is the giant red flag beyond all else to me, but the sourcing of it was ridiculous broad and has not helped one bit in actually finding the article to actuall see the real quotes.

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