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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Here's a solid, faith-based company who, by all accounts, treats its employees and franchisees while looking through the lens of Christian Values. Yet we bash them in the head for that.
    Nobody has said that they want to "bash the company" for being a "faith-based company who, by all accounts, treats its employees and franchisees while looking through the lens of Christian Values." People have taken issue with the company for spreading hateful messages about gay people and contributing to people and organizations that want to discriminate against them.

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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I don't understand why this is an issue. Why protest or support? Some dude ran his mouth about his beliefs. Who the **** cares? It's a free country. Chick-Fil-A wasn't discriminating, was it? It wasn't breaking any law, was it? Then this is a non-issue. Some dude ran his mouth, that's all there is to it. Don't like it, don't go. But to turn this into a mountain is stupid. In a free country people are going to say all sorts of things, ain't no point getting all bent out of shape over every damned thing that is said that you don't agree with.
    Oh so he was "running his mouth" was he.

    He wasn't talking about a political issue with his so-called right to free speech, he was "running his mouth". mmmmhmmmm.
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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    In my defense, I was trying to make the point that there are ways to reject gay marriage without being a raging asshole, and that people should focus on those who are raging assholes instead of making giant issues out of people who share their views more politely.
    if the raging assholes (politicians) had kept out of it, this whole issue would have been ignored...
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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    if the raging assholes (politicians) had kept out of it, this whole issue would have been ignored...
    At the same time, if the raging anti-SSM assholes who decided to have a "Chik Fil A" day had kept out of it, this whole issue would have been irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    When did marriage become a fundamental right?
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    You can't have two drinking fountains and you can't have a separate window at city hall. Every couple gets the same license. You can define the ceremony any way your little heart desires. But the government issued license, you can't discriminate who gets it and who doesn't based on how they were born.



    attacing a man because of his religious beliefs and attempting to cause him financial hardships for expressing them opening equates to suppression.
    The first amendment does't protect you from negative blow back from exercising your rights.


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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I don't think there's one poster here who would disagree with that. The arguments mostly come from the intolerance that's being shown by those who attack religion based on their views on gay marriage. IMO, churches get a pass. Otherwise, we don't really have freedom of religion in this country.
    They can believe whatever they want. That doesn't mean that it isn't ignorant...and when they cross the line from religious belief to advocating discriminatory public policy, that's reprehensible.

    We villify corporations for their inhumanity all the time. Here's a solid, faith-based company who, by all accounts, treats its employees and franchisees while looking through the lens of Christian Values. Yet we bash them in the head for that. Surely many religions don't embrace SSM. Have we villifed them? Are we picketting in front of their synagogs, mosques and chapels? No. We're not. But let the owner of a company walk the walk? We're ready to hang 'im from the highest tree.

    I just don't get it.
    It's a lot easier to hold the head of a business accountable than to hold a church accountable.
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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I think they view the civil concept of marriage as utterly inappropriate anyway. That's why most of them don't balk at "civil unions". As far as they're concerned it doesn't mean anything because it isn't "marriage", which, according to them, belongs solely to religion. As you and I both know, marriage neither began with or will end with religion...but we're talking about thousands of years of indoctrination.
    Actually that's not true, when civil unions have come up most of the people against SSM are also against civil unions, and pass laws that block same sex civil unions, or limit their power.
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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Anybody spraying the bowl last night after supporting the homophobes at Chik-Fil-A?

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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    The intensity of groups like the KKK and the Nazi Party is higher than that of groups like the Family Research Council. However, the reality is that both spread hateful messages about those whom they perceive as less than them and who they don't believe are worthy of the same treatment for arbitrary reasons. As a result, the comparison is a fair one if you understand what's being compared.
    Again....comparing a company (chick-fil-a) whose charitable arm (wingate) then gives money to another group (FRC) that does many good things as well as some hateful things as well to flat out a group like the KKK or the Nazi Party is ridiculous and goes beyond simply "intensity".

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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I think they view the civil concept of marriage as utterly inappropriate anyway. That's why most of them don't balk at "civil unions". As far as they're concerned it doesn't mean anything because it isn't "marriage", which, according to them, belongs solely to religion. As you and I both know, marriage neither began with or will end with religion...but we're talking about thousands of years of indoctrination.
    Tess, I think if they hold the view that the institution of marriage should be under the sole purview of the Church, then they shouldn't even bother with trying to shape secular marriage since in their eyes secular marriage has no validity. They simply have to face the fact that the civil and secular institution of marriage exists whether they like it or not, and apply their own beliefs to the religious institution rather than the secular and civil one. Just because I'm a Hindu who believes that cows are deities and that the consumption of beef is offensive to me doesn't justify me making beef consumption illegal for everyone else.
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