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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Listen hazlnut not being for gay marriage is NOT BEING A BIGOT or hateful or a scumbag ok.
    Yeah, actually that's exactly what it is. Do you also think that the people who support segregation and Jim Crow Laws aren't actually racist?

    .thats why they are lining up to support chik a fil because people are starting to feel like their RIGHT to have an opinion is trying to be taken from them by very hateful and abusive individuals that are trying to FORCE their will down everyones throat.
    No, the only ones trying to force their will down anyone's throat are the assholes who think that some Americans shouldn't be entitled to the same rights as everyone else. Those on the other side of this issue are not trying to take marriage rights away from Southern Baptists, or donating money to hate groups. If we get our way, everyone has the same rights. If the homophobes get their way, some people have rights that others do not.

    If it's "forcing their will down everyone's throat" to stand up for equal rights for all, then count me guilty as charged, as Dan Cathy might say.

    you got that...and you know what this overbearing ABUSE of the people that dont agree with gay marriage is going to do...its going to cause HATE...because its gone to far...to the point where they dont want anyone to even say they arent for gay marriage...kind of like some of the people on this forum....
    Good. People SHOULD be ashamed to be against equality. It should be as socially unacceptable as overt racism and supporting racial discrimination.
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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    I didn't even realize it was appreciation day yesterday. I just really, really wanted a sweet tea and a chicken sandwich. Drove up, saw a lined doubled up around the restaurant and ended up going to Sonic instead.

    I support gay marriage. I don't agree with Cathy's opinion on gay marriage. But even if I find his views ignorant and out of place, I have to admit he was respectful in his approach. And honestly, this isn't even the first time he's spoken on gay marriage, it's just the first time it's received massive media attention.
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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    What garbage...opposing gay marriage is NOT being anti gay.
    Is supporting segregation and Jim Crow Laws being racist?

    YOUR the hateful person, that believes that somehow what you want and your opinion overrides every other humans
    Equality under the law is non-negotiable.

    Gays and their supporters make utterly absurd claims to denigrate anyone that dares to oppose what they want.
    How about we take away YOUR rights? Surely you won't object, because your opinion that you should have equal rights doesn't override anyone else's opinion that you should be bullied and discriminated against. Right?

    Your like a nazi...your a homophobe...your a hater...your like racists that enslaved black people...to all that I say BS in big bold letters.
    Please explain how this is different from people who supported discrimination on the basis of race. So far no one has been able to give an explanation of any meaningful distinction between the two.
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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectStorm View Post
    So you're saying the mayors were pandering?
    Of course. Either pandering or just blowing off steam or both.
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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    That would be the only thing that would spur me to a Chick-Fil-A, the fact that the government intervened and even threatened, even threatened to use their force against the free exercise of rights. Who cares what some individual person says, but the government is expressly forbidden from doing anything, and even the threat is tyranny.
    Both mayors walked those threats back. And buying a chicken sandwich does not do anything to prevent government officials from doing this in the future, if that is the concern. I'm calling bull**** on ANYONE who claims that they attended "Chick-Fil-A Appreciation Day" not because they support discrimination, but because they were just so horrified by Rahm Emanuel making a silly remark.
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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I didn't even realize it was appreciation day yesterday. I just really, really wanted a sweet tea and a chicken sandwich. Drove up, saw a lined doubled up around the restaurant and ended up going to Sonic instead.

    I support gay marriage. I don't agree with Cathy's opinion on gay marriage. But even if I find his views ignorant and out of place, I have to admit he was respectful in his approach. And honestly, this isn't even the first time he's spoken on gay marriage, it's just the first time it's received massive media attention.
    I don't think he was respectful whatsoever. Some of his comments came across as downright arrogant and overly self-righteous, and frankly insulting.
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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I don't think he was respectful whatsoever. Some of his comments came across as downright arrogant and overly self-righteous, and frankly insulting.
    This is from the original article/interview with Cathy that started all the controversy. What part of it is disrespectful, arrogant, or insulting?

    The company invests in Christian growth and ministry through its WinShape Foundation (WinShape.com). The name comes from the idea of shaping people to be winners. It began as a college scholarship and expanded to a foster care program, an international ministry, and a conference and retreat center modeled after the Billy Graham Training Center at the Cove.

    “That morphed into a marriage program in conjunction with national marriage ministries,” Cathy added.

    Some have opposed the company’s support of the traditional family. “Well, guilty as charged,” said Cathy when asked about the company’s position. “We are very much supportive of the family — the biblical definition of the family unit. …

    “We are very much committed to that,” Cathy emphasized. “We intend to stay the course,” he said. “We know that it might not be popular with everyone, but thank the Lord, we live in a country where we can share our values and operate on biblical principles.”
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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I don't understand why this is an issue. Why protest or support? Some dude ran his mouth about his beliefs. Who the **** cares? It's a free country. Chick-Fil-A wasn't discriminating, was it? It wasn't breaking any law, was it? Then this is a non-issue. Some dude ran his mouth, that's all there is to it. Don't like it, don't go. But to turn this into a mountain is stupid. In a free country people are going to say all sorts of things, ain't no point getting all bent out of shape over every damned thing that is said that you don't agree with.
    Yep. I had Chick-Fil-A for breakfast yesterday. Was it due to some political message? Nope. It was due to the fact I was running late to work, didn't get breakfast at home, and could smell Chick-n-mini's driving past it and went "Mmmm...tha'tll hit the spot".

    I'm not going to stop eating Chick-Fil-A because of a political message, but I'm not going to purposefully eat there for one either. I'm going to eat there or not because of the service and food that I recieve from a FOOD ESTABLISHMENT not a political entity.

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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    This is from the original article/interview with Cathy that started all the controversy. What part of it is disrespectful, arrogant, or insulting?
    Not that quote, but this radio show interview that happened days before:

    “we’re inviting God’s judgment on our nation when we shake our fist at him and say we know better than you as to what constitutes a marriage. And I pray God’s mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude that thinks we have the audacity to redefine what marriage is all about.”
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    re: Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters [W:529]

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    This is from the original article/interview with Cathy that started all the controversy. What part of it is disrespectful, arrogant, or insulting?
    Even if his interview was respectful, the fact that he donates millions of dollars to hate groups and pro-discrimination organizations is definitely NOT respectful.
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