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    Re: Leading Israeli religious Zionist rabbi: A woman's place is in the home

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    My kids are better off, our home is spotless and well kept, and my wife and I enjoy each others roles in our family. I have a great deal of respect for her role, and she is equally respectful of mine.

    What's so extreme about a women place rteally IS in the home!


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    Your children are fortunate that their mom actually wants to stay in the home and raise them. Kudos to her.

    Now that being said, women in general probably don't know how good they had it when men were willing to be the breadwinner, and women were able to stay at home, without it creating a financial strain on the family.

    Now that we (women) have been empowered, we have found that we just took on additional responsibilities, in addition to those we already had- it's a tough job running the world.
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    Re: Leading Israeli religious Zionist rabbi: A woman's place is in the home

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Hatuey actually makes the correct assessment in my opinion. I'm not sure why many here are quick to criticize his views on this? Some might even say that a lot of the problems in this world, especially in the western society could go away tomorrow if women were more inclined to stay home and take care of the home. I suppose I'm extree then since my wife has been a stay at home since we met. My kids are better off, our home is spotless and well kept, and my wife and I enjoy each others roles in our family. I have a great deal of respect for her role, and she is equally respectful of mine.

    What's so extreme about a women place rteally IS in the home!


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    Wow, you should be part of the Taliban, you share the same views about women. And for the record forcing someone to stay home is not respect.

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    Re: Leading Israeli religious Zionist rabbi: A woman's place is in the home

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Wow, you should be part of the Taliban, you share the same views about women. And for the record forcing someone to stay home is not respect.
    How did you get forcing from my post? Lizzie had it right, perhaps she took better advantage of her education than you?

    That said, I am a FIRM believer that someone needs to be home, where home is the routine, not the place where parents go to eat dinner and sleep.


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    Re: Leading Israeli religious Zionist rabbi: A woman's place is in the home

    It's intriguing how frequently religious extremists tend to want to oppress women, regardless of which religion they're extreme about.
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    Re: Leading Israeli religious Zionist rabbi: A woman's place is in the home

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Wow, you should be part of the Taliban, you share the same views about women. And for the record forcing someone to stay home is not respect.
    I didn't see anything about force being used.
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    Re: Leading Israeli religious Zionist rabbi: A woman's place is in the home

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Hatuey actually makes the correct assessment in my opinion. I'm not sure why many here are quick to criticize his views on this? Some might even say that a lot of the problems in this world, especially in the western society could go away tomorrow if women were more inclined to stay home and take care of the home. I suppose I'm extree then since my wife has been a stay at home since we met. My kids are better off, our home is spotless and well kept, and my wife and I enjoy each others roles in our family. I have a great deal of respect for her role, and she is equally respectful of mine.

    What's so extreme about a women place rteally IS in the home!


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    I'm not arguing that his position isn't extreme within a wider societal construct that takes into consideration secular opinions. I'm arguing that within the historical understanding and teachings of Abrahamic faith, his position is perfectly well within the mainstream.
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    Re: Leading Israeli religious Zionist rabbi: A woman's place is in the home

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I'm not arguing that his position isn't extreme within a wider societal construct that takes into consideration secular opinions. I'm arguing that within the historical understanding and teachings of Abrahamic faith, his position is perfectly well within the mainstream.

    I think a better term, and one more widely used to describe such people, is "fundamentalist"

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    Re: Leading Israeli religious Zionist rabbi: A woman's place is in the home

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I think a better term, and one more widely used to describe such people, is "fundamentalist"
    No, no, he is a traditionalist as well as fundamentalist. His belief in fundamentals are part of a tradition.
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    Re: Leading Israeli religious Zionist rabbi: A woman's place is in the home

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    That is correct.

    But if religious leaders think that women lack the necessities to be effective religious leaders, who are you to tell them they're wrong? What is your recourse?

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    Re: Leading Israeli religious Zionist rabbi: A woman's place is in the home

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    No, no, he is a traditionalist as well as fundamentalist. His belief in fundamentals are part of a tradition.
    what would be the difference between the two?

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