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    Re: Bloomberg pushing NY hospitals to hide baby formula so more new moms will breast-

    To me this is just another instance of government trying to control what women can and cannot do with their own bodies. Breastfeeding a newborn is a huge commitment of time... and contrary to popular believe, babies are not born knowing how to latch on and properly suckle. Frankly, there's a lot for a new mom to learn about breastfeeding, from how to introduce the nipple to the baby, understanding when the baby is nursing properly so milk is flowing and when the baby is just sucking wildly on the tip of the nipple, getting no nourishment. When that happens, the hungry infant becomes frantic and will frequently reject the nipple because its hunger is not being appeased. First-time moms are already nervous about properly caring for this tiny life. They don't need the added pressure of being treated like a junkie if they want to bottle-feed their babies.

    During breastfeeding, breasts swell and become painful. Nursing, too, is frequently painful. Nipples can become cracked and raw, making nursing incredibly painful. Women who have to work have to pump milk regularly to assure that there is enough for the caregiver to feed the baby, and will further have to pump milk throughout their work day so they don't have blouses soaked with sticky liquid when the breasts leak. Breastfeeding is a serious long-term commitment, and it's simply not for everyone.

    I seriously resent women being discouraged from making their own choice, lectured... scolded, really... and shamed into something that they may be unable or unprepared to do. I breastfed my children because I wanted to, not because the government basically told me I'd be a bad mom if I didn't. This is really outrageous.

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    Re: Bloomberg pushing NY hospitals to hide baby formula so more new moms will breast-

    Ah, New York.... what a Brave New World.




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    Re: Bloomberg pushing NY hospitals to hide baby formula so more new moms will breast-

    I don't really do agree with this. I do agree with parts of what NYC is doing. I like banning hospitals from giving away free merchandise with formula company logos on it. And I do think that doctors should discuss with the mother the pros and cons of breastfeeding vs. bottle feeding, but that's as far as it goes. If the mom decides to make an informed decision to bottle feed, then that's her decision and the doctor/hospital should respect it. The way I see it a doctor's mission should be to inform the patient, and make a professional recommendation, not make decisions for them.
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    Re: Bloomberg pushing NY hospitals to hide baby formula so more new moms will breast-

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    I don't really do agree with this. I do agree with parts of what NYC is doing. I like banning hospitals from giving away free merchandise with formula company logos on it. And I do think that doctors should discuss with the mother the pros and cons of breastfeeding vs. bottle feeding, but that's as far as it goes. If the mom decides to make an informed decision to bottle feed, then that's her decision and the doctor/hospital should respect it. The way I see it a doctor's mission should be to inform the patient, and make a professional recommendation, not make decisions for them.
    On this note: I think that Dr's are disingenuous - they *might* say 'breast is best' but some don't say that and - in my past experience - drs WILL push formula if they think that your milk isn't 'up to standard' and that the baby isn't gaining enough weight.

    So some Dr's aren't actually digging in their heels and putting up a solid effort to encourage nursing.

    Talking about it openly definitely didn't come up - thinking about it carefully now; I don't recall a single discussion with my obgyn's or pediatricians while I was pregnant about nursing. There's just a lot of quiet assumptions made about it. The two big assumptions seem to be #1: Mom will do it because 'it's natural' and any inhibitions won't be enough to negate the act . . . and #2: If she 'nursed' her kids before of course she'll do it again with extreme ease - no problems. . . . and #3: It's so natural there aren't any problems that get in the way or negate future attempts.

    Blind ignorance - maybe it's just the male obgyns and pediatricians? I never dealt with females - maybe they're more involved or concerned?
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    Re: Bloomberg pushing NY hospitals to hide baby formula so more new moms will breast-

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    I don't really do agree with this. I do agree with parts of what NYC is doing. I like banning hospitals from giving away free merchandise with formula company logos on it. And I do think that doctors should discuss with the mother the pros and cons of breastfeeding vs. bottle feeding, but that's as far as it goes. If the mom decides to make an informed decision to bottle feed, then that's her decision and the doctor/hospital should respect it. The way I see it a doctor's mission should be to inform the patient, and make a professional recommendation, not make decisions for them.
    Thats the problem with gov't. They think they have to tell doctors to do this stuff. I have two children born in different hospitals in different states and both times we had the doctor and a lactation specialist visit us to talk about breastfeeding. Doctors don't need more gov't involvement, they need less. As do all of us. They assume that we, the lowly peon citizens, aren't doing what we are supposed to do according to their agenda so they use their lofty perch to dictate what they think is best for us.
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    Re: Bloomberg pushing NY hospitals to hide baby formula so more new moms will breast-

    My wife breast fed two...and could not breast feed the rest....Never noticed any different in the love they all have for her....its a womans choice to breastfeed or not....not freakin bloombergs..

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    Re: Bloomberg pushing NY hospitals to hide baby formula so more new moms will breast-

    It depends on the health and diet of the mother. Some toxins should be screened for as they are concentrated in breast milk. Some members probably got bad milk, a few of y'all ain't right.
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    Re: Bloomberg pushing NY hospitals to hide baby formula so more new moms will breast-

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Blind ignorance - maybe it's just the male obgyns and pediatricians? I never dealt with females - maybe they're more involved or concerned?
    In my experience, it tends to be post-partum nurses, at the hospital, which address the breast-feeding issue more often than doctors.
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    Re: Bloomberg pushing NY hospitals to hide baby formula so more new moms will breast-

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    My wife breast fed two...and could not breast feed the rest....Never noticed any different in the love they all have for her....its a womans choice to breastfeed or not....not freakin bloombergs..
    He probably just wants to divert the NY budget to other priorities, rather than supplying infant formula.
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    Re: Bloomberg pushing NY hospitals to hide baby formula so more new moms will breast-

    I'm not sure many people realize that this isn't a law or anything. Yeah, Bloomberg is encouraging it, which is a little inappropriate, but this is something the hospitals are doing themselves, for the most part. This is a voluntary program.

    I agree that they should not be lecturing mothers about this with every bottle they use, that is stupid. And if this was a law, it would be wrong. But it isn't a law right now. And only those hospitals who wish to participate are involved.
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