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LEAK: US sees Israel as spy threat [W:75]

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24107 said:
Those quote's are true, but pro-zionist's went on a propaganda campain to discredit them, to cover up these damming facts. No offense i respect you for not tossing the anti-semite card all the time like other's. but your lean judging from your previous post's very very pro-israel bias.
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I am pro-Israel, but those quotes are objectively not true. As evidence I would challenge you to locate a legitimate news source that reported the quote. It has been widely debunked. Even the supposed radio outlet that was claimed to have 'reported' it Kol Yisrael repudiated the notion that they ever said it, and also categorically denied that a broadcast of that nature had even occurred. Thus far despite a decades worth of time no one has managed to find this 'broadcast' only the singular excerpt, which is as I said before fabricated.
 
Let's switch off the anti-Semitic debate, we all know who you are talking about Thunder. Back to the discussion.
 
Sherman123 said:
I am pro-Israel, but those quotes are objectively not true. As evidence I would challenge you to locate a legitimate news source that reported the quote. It has been widely debunked. Even the supposed radio outlet that was claimed to have 'reported' it Kol Yisrael repudiated the notion that they ever said it, and also categorically denied that a broadcast of that nature had even occurred. Thus far despite a decades worth of time no one has managed to find this 'broadcast' only the singular excerpt, which is as I said before fabricated.
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There's a problem with ''legitimate'' news sources, mentioning everything they should mention; because of ''unsavory'' influence.
I invite you to this thread, for further explanation from ''the horse's mouth''.http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-pa...l-platforms/131539-jews-do-control-media.html
 
24107 said:
There's a problem with ''legitimate'' news sources, mentioning everything they should mention; because of ''unsavory'' influence.
I invite you to this thread, for further explanation from ''the horse's mouth''.http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-pa...l-platforms/131539-jews-do-control-media.html
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Right but if you claim as the excerpt does that this quote came from Kol Yisrael, and that station rejects ever having recorded such an interview or even airing a broadcast like that you have a massive credibility problem. One that isn't obviated by citing an opinion column.
 
Ah -- so we are now to the Jews controling the media canard.

Such a time-honored classic.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Im anti-Semitic?
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I am

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First they sit on top of trade routes and have been taxing them since antiquity, now they sit atop of oil. Seriously have the Semites ever worked a day in their ~6,000 years of written history?

Semitic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Semites are nothing but trouble, always have been.
 
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Matt Foley said:
A memorandum is not an alliance.
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you didn't even read the links.

Missile program

One facet of the U.S.–Israel strategic relationship is the joint development of the Arrow Anti-Ballistic Missile Program, designed to intercept and destroy ballistic missiles. This development is funded by both Israel and the United States. The Arrow has also provided the U.S. with the research and experience necessary to develop additional weapons systems. So far, the development cost has been between $2.4 and $3.6 Billion, with the United States picking up 50% of the final costs.

[edit] Counter-terrorism

In April 1996, President Bill Clinton and Prime Minister Shimon Peres signed the U.S.–Israel Counter-terrorism Accord. The two countries agreed to further cooperation in information sharing, training, investigations, research and development and policymaking.

[edit] Homeland security

At the federal, state and local levels there is close Israeli–American cooperation on Homeland Security. Israel was one of the first countries to cooperate with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security in developing initiatives to enhance homeland security. In this framework, there are many areas of partnership, including preparedness and protection of travel and trade. American and Israeli law enforcement officers and Homeland Security officials regularly meet in both countries to study counter-terrorism techniques and new ideas regarding intelligence gathering and threat prevention.

In December 2005, the United States and Israel signed an agreement to begin a joint effort to detect the smuggling of nuclear and other radioactive material by installing special equipment in Haifa, Israel's busiest seaport. This effort is part of a nonproliferation program of the U.S. Department of Energy's National Nuclear Security Administration that works with foreign partners to detect, deter, and interdict illicit trafficking in nuclear and other radioactive materials.

[edit] Military bases

The United States maintains six war reserve stocks inside Israel, and maintains some $300 million in military equipment at these sites. The equipment is owned by the United States and is for use by American forces in the Middle East, but can also be transferred to Israeli use during a time of crisis. The United States is also alleged to keep fighter and bomber aircraft at these sites, and one of the bases is thought to contain a 500-bed hospital for U.S. Marines and Special Forces.[85][86]

The Dimona Radar Facility is an American radar facility in the Negev desert of Israel, located near Dimona. The facility has two 400-foot radar towers designed to track ballistic missiles through space and provide ground-based missiles with the targeting data needed to intercept them. It can detect missiles up to 1,500 miles away. The facility is owned and operated by the U.S. military, and provides only second-hand intelligence to Israel. The towers of the facility are the tallest radar towers in the world, and the tallest towers in Israel
 
Israel has been designated a major non-NATO ally as per the Nunn amendment relating to Title 10 of US code. This has not been revoked since it was issued in 1989. Good enough?
 
24107 said:
WASHINGTON (AP) -- The CIA station chief opened the locked box containing the sensitive equipment he used from his home in Tel Aviv, Israel, to communicate with CIA headquarters in Virginia, only to find that someone had tampered with it. He sent word to his superiors about the break-in.

The incident, described by three former senior U.S. intelligence officials, might have been dismissed as just another cloak-and-dagger incident in the world of international espionage, except that the same thing had happened to the previous station chief in Israel.
LEAK: US sees Israel as spy threat
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Frankly, that's not really so surprising, as we are not the dependable ally to Israel that we have historically been.
 
MaggieD said:
Counter-espionage. Why did he have covert communications equipment to communicate with the CIA? Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black.
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Why did the CIA station chief have covert communications equipment to communicate with the CIA?

I am not sure I understand your question.
 
lizzie said:
Frankly, that's not really so surprising, as we are not the dependable ally to Israel that we have historically been.
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Can you please elaborate, we have been giving them billion's of dollar's in aid every year; for year's. We alway's bail them out with a veto at the u.n. when the rest of the world, is condeming them for transgressions. What is left to give? our blood? our souls?
 
Simon W. Moon said:
Why did the CIA station chief have covert communications equipment to communicate with the CIA?

I am not sure I understand your question.
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yeah, I just walked past that one
 
24107 said:
Can you please elaborate, we have been giving them billion's of dollar's in aid every year; for year's. We alway's bail them out with a veto at the u.n. when the rest of the world, is condeming them for transgressions. What is left to give? our blood? our souls?
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Just our solid and dependable support would be nice. There is not much doubt that we (as a nation) have been becoming increasing anti-semitic over the years, due mostly to political correctness and a fear of being seen as impartial. Frankly, we are their only actual ally who is willing to back it up, but I'm seeing less political will to do so, with a growing apathy among the general population.
 
lizzie said:
Just our solid and dependable support would be nice. There is not much doubt that we (as a nation) have been becoming increasing anti-semitic over the years, due mostly to political correctness and a fear of being seen as impartial. Frankly, we are their only actual ally who is willing to back it up, but I'm seeing less political will to do so, with a growing apathy among the general population.
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what, how is america becoming antisemitic, and why should we give unconditional support to any country?
 
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