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    Gun carrying man ends stabbing spree at grocery store

    SALT LAKE CITY (ABC 4 News) - A citizen with a gun stopped a knife wielding man as he began stabbing people Thursday evening at the downtown Salt Lake City Smith's store.

    Police say the suspect purchased a knife inside the store and then turned it into a weapon. Smith's employee Dorothy Espinoza says, "He pulled it out and stood outside the Smiths in the foyer. And just started stabbing people and yelling you killed my people. You killed my people."

    Espinoza says, the knife wielding man seriously injured two people. "There is blood all over. One got stabbed in the stomach and got stabbed in the head and held his hands and got stabbed all over the arms."

    Then, before the suspect could find another victim - a citizen with a gun stopped the madness. "A guy pulled gun on him and told him to drop his weapon or he would shoot him. So, he dropped his weapon and the people from Smith's grabbed him".
    I post this because, in light of the shootings in Aurora, Colorado, gun ownership once again is getting a bad rap from some people. So, for the umpteenth millionth time, I want to again say that it is not the guns that do harm. It's the wrong people getting them. Even with gun control, those who want to do evil with guns are still going to get access to them. So why not allow law abiding citizens to level the playing field with their own weapons? What good can owning guns do? This article should be the poster child for the answer to that question. Yes, we will always have monsterous douche bags around, but guns in the hands of good guys who respect guns for what they are, and who know how to use them properly, will always be a blessing. Yes, I still fiercely support the Second Amendment.

    Article is here.
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    Re: Gun carrying man ends stabbing spree at grocery store

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I post this because, in light of the shootings in Aurora, Colorado, gun ownership once again is getting a bad rap from some people. So, for the umpteenth millionth time, I want to again say that it is not the guns that do harm. It's the wrong people getting them. Even with gun control, those who want to do evil with guns are still going to get access to them. So why not allow law abiding citizens to level the playing field with their own weapons? What good can owning guns do? This article should be the poster child for the answer to that question. Yes, we will always have monsterous douche bags around, but guns in the hands of good guys who respect guns for what they are, and who know how to use them properly, will always be a blessing. Yes, I still fiercely support the Second Amendment.

    Article is here.
    Like all the other hero saving people with his gun stories this will either be ignored or only given a token mention by the liberal media.
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    Re: Gun carrying man ends stabbing spree at grocery store

    Wow...another crazy person hurting people (and just to be clear, I mean the man wielding the knife). Is there something in the water?
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    Re: Gun carrying man ends stabbing spree at grocery store

    We need laws to ban the sale of knives and other pointed objects. How many people have to be stabbed and die before we as a society recognize this and take measures to stop it.
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    Re: Gun carrying man ends stabbing spree at grocery store

    Cars and alcohol don't kill people, either, but we restrict possession and use of them, too. It would be really nice if we could have an intelligent conversation over gun control, rather than reactionary ones where proponents of gun ownership rely on slogans to diffuse the discussion itself. There is no popular movement for mass disarmament, only reasonable restrictions, specifically to prevent violent incidents. The right and ability to protect oneself or one's home are not on the chopping block. Nor is the ability of citizens to keep weapons as a caution against tyranny. The issue is safety, and whether a little bit of regulation could go a long way to keeping us safe from violence. Not a lot of regulation going a little way. That would be unconstitutional. But the discussion must take place. The facts must be evaluated. If it turns out that restricting guns won't make us safer, than we shouldn't restrict them. But we at least have to address the issue in a rational manner, not with outrage.

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    We need laws to ban the sale of knives and other pointed objects. How many people have to be stabbed and die before we as a society recognize this and take measures to stop it.

    The difference, obviously, is that knives have a purpose beyond violence. Guns do not. They are weapons, with no use other than killing. This is an important distinction that makes evaluating guns different from evaluating other things. Crossbows, for example, have no use other than as weaponry. Baseball bats do. See the difference?
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    Re: Gun carrying man ends stabbing spree at grocery store

    But we at least have to address the issue in a rational manner, not with outrage.
    Same with knives.
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    Re: Gun carrying man ends stabbing spree at grocery store

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Cars and alcohol don't kill people, either, but we restrict possession and use of them, too. It would be really nice if we could have an intelligent conversation over gun control, rather than reactionary ones where proponents of gun ownership rely on slogans to diffuse the discussion itself. There is no popular movement for mass disarmament, only reasonable restrictions, specifically to prevent violent incidents. The right and ability to protect oneself or one's home are not on the chopping block. Nor is the ability of citizens to keep weapons as a caution against tyranny. The issue is safety, and whether a little bit of regulation could go a long way to keeping us safe from violence. Not a lot of regulation going a little way. That would be unconstitutional. But the discussion must take place. The facts must be evaluated. If it turns out that restricting guns won't make us safer, than we shouldn't restrict them. But we at least have to address the issue in a rational manner, not with outrage.
    Everyone says this kind of stuff as though they're the first one saying it, and as though this kind of data doesn't already exist.

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    Re: Gun carrying man ends stabbing spree at grocery store

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Like all the other hero saving people with his gun stories this will either be ignored or only given a token mention by the liberal media.
    Always playing the victim. This time you're the victim of the liberal media not giving stories which support our politics enough attention.

    Also its not as simple as "evil men and/or criminals will break the law anyway and get a gun, while law abiding citizens are defenseless" there are plenty of examples of countries which have very strict gun laws, even outright bans on all of them, but have extremely less illegal gun violence than the United States. However, before someone starts foaming at the mouth, I'm not advocating that I'm just pointing out a fact.

    And lastly, well done on the part of that man it shows what responsible gun ownership is all about.

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    Re: Gun carrying man ends stabbing spree at grocery store

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Wow...another crazy person hurting people (and just to be clear, I mean the man wielding the knife). Is there something in the water?
    You mean besides the fluoride and chlorine?

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    Re: Gun carrying man ends stabbing spree at grocery store

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Wow...another crazy person hurting people (and just to be clear, I mean the man wielding the knife). Is there something in the water?
    Crazy people do crazy **** every day, thousands of times a day.
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