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Obama signs Israel military aid bill on eve of Romney visit

The Cost Of Israel To U.S. Taxpayer's

By Richard H. Curtiss
Former U.S. Foreign Service Officer
The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs


For many years the American media said that “Israel receives $1.8 billion in military aid” or that “Israel receives $1.2 billion in economic aid.” Both statements were true, but since they were never combined to give us the complete total of annual U.S. aid to Israel, they also were lies—true lies.

Recently Americans have begun to read and hear that “Israel receives $3 billion in annual U.S. foreign aid.” That's true. But it's still a lie. The problem is that in fiscal 1997 alone, Israel received from a variety of other U.S. federal budgets at least $525.8 million above and beyond its $3 billion from the foreign aid budget, and yet another $2 billion in federal loan guarantees. So the complete total of U.S. grants and loan guarantees to Israel for fiscal 1997 was $5,525,800,000.
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The Cost of Israel to US Taxpayers

Here are some more links/sources
Obama Approves $30 Billion in Military Aid to Israel Over Next Decade
Obama Approves $30 Billion in Military Aid to Israel Over Next Decade -- News from Antiwar.com
A Conservative Estimate of Total Direct U.S. Aid to Israel: Almost $114 Billion

Washington Report on Middle East Affairs | Washington Report on Middle East Affairs
U.S. Aid To Israel

U.S. Aid To Israel
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
I am unsure how you can claim this is the product of the congress, when his administration would decide when and how they were going to conduct the signing.
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Well, let me clear it up for you. Israel requested the additional funding in May. Obama submitted the request to Congress at that time, and they finally approved it on July 18. Obama signed the appropriation on July 27. So I guess it's possible that it was a conspiracy by Israel, Obama, the Senate, and the Republican-controlled House to undermine Romney's field trip ... but I rather doubt it.
 
This is a bad bill, not a good one. What exactly are *we*, you know, the moneyclip, getting out of this? Oh, that's right. I'm not supposed to ask that.
 
24107 said:
The Cost Of Israel To U.S. Taxpayer's


The Cost of Israel to US Taxpayers

Here are some more links/sources
Obama Approves $30 Billion in Military Aid to Israel Over Next Decade
Obama Approves $30 Billion in Military Aid to Israel Over Next Decade -- News from Antiwar.com
A Conservative Estimate of Total Direct U.S. Aid to Israel: Almost $114 Billion

Washington Report on Middle East Affairs | Washington Report on Middle East Affairs
U.S. Aid To Israel

U.S. Aid To Israel
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Just so no-one is confused, the links are somewhat out of date. Israel does not receive direct economic aid, and hasn't for quite a few years now. It's military aid package which was pre-agreed upon by the Bush administration rings up at about $3 billion over a 5 year period totaling $15 billion in direct disbursements and joint development projects which are accounted as part of the aid. This signing refers to a one time $70 million disbursement related to counter-terrorism issues and joint projects.
 
AdamT said:
Well, let me clear it up for you. Israel requested the additional funding in May. Obama submitted the request to Congress at that time, and they finally approved it on July 18. Obama signed the appropriation on July 27. So I guess it's possible that it was a conspiracy by Israel, Obama, the Senate, and the Republican-controlled House to undermine Romney's field trip ... but I rather doubt it.
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Adam, nothing I stated presupposes a conspiracy, only having the ability to decide when to sign (they have complete control to do so after the romney visit), and under what circumstances (they could have signed it without the pageantry). Things you have previously asserted to be due to the actions of congress, when congress has no such input. Also, taking advantages of opportune circumstances doesn't presuppose a conspiracy, either
 
justabubba said:
so, you want us to believe that giving $70 million to the israelis is money better spent than caring for American citizens who need help
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as the money is obviously not being paid for, its simply adding to our deficit.

I'd rather the money not have been spend at all.
 
clownboy said:
Less than 200 people a year (in the US) have starvation listed as the cause of death. But the numbers of the perpetually underfed (starving for days, then having just enough, rinse, repeat) are in the millions.

The figures have been posted.
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I'd love to see the photos of these "starving" Americans.

do they look like the photos of the poor kids in Africa, starving?

surely not.
 
Thunder said:
I'd love to see the photos of these "starving" Americans.
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No doubt. That's just as sadistic as saying Americans have to pay for others' struggles.

do they look like the photos of the poor kids in Africa, starving?
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Starving is starving. Why does that matter?

surely not.
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Prove it.
 
Daktoria said:
...Prove it.
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hey, its your silly claim that folks are starving in the USA.

its your burden to prove it.

now, are folks hungry in the USA? surely.

starvation is a severe lack of food the the nutrients that come with it.

there is NO evidence that this is a real problem in the USA, or that it effects more than 1,000 people in the USA.

of course, you are welcome to prove me wrong, as its your claim.
 
I already pointed out soup kitchens, food stamps, and organizations such as "Feed the Children". That evidence goes without repeating.
 
Thunder said:
hey, its your silly claim that folks are starving in the USA.

its your burden to prove it.

now, are folks hungry in the USA? surely.

starvation is a severe lack of food the the nutrients that come with it.

there is NO evidence that this is a real problem in the USA, or that it effects more than 1,000 people in the USA.

of course, you are welcome to prove me wrong, as its your claim.
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Shocking Need: American Kids Go Hungry

As many as 17 million children nationwide are struggling with what is known as food insecurity. To put it another way, one in four children in the country is living without consistent access to enough nutritious food to live a healthy life
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HUNGER HURTS: Millions of American Kids Go Hungry - ABC News
 
Daktoria said:
I already pointed out soup kitchens, food stamps, and organizations such as "Feed the Children". That evidence goes without repeating.
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you are confusing hungry with starving

they are NOT the same.

I haven't eaten since last night. I am hungry. But I'm not starving.
 
Thunder said:
as the money is obviously not being paid for, its simply adding to our deficit.

I'd rather the money not have been spend at all.
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then you oppose sending that $70 million to israel?
 
Thunder said:
so you acknowledge there are not lots of folks starving in the USA?
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The article I posted indicates, that approximetely 1 in 4 children in the U.S. do not get enough nutritious food, that in it's self can lead to health problem's.

And Justabubba asked you an important question.
 
24107 said:
The article I posted indicates, that approximetely 1 in 4 children in the U.S. do not get enough nutritious food, that in it's self can lead to health problem's....
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that means you do NOT know what starvation is.
 
Thunder said:
that means you do NOT know what starvation is.
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I would rather that 70 million go toward's feeding hungry american children, instead of it going to israel's war machine that slaughter's women and children on the other side of the world.
 
Thunder said:
a mere drop in the bucket.
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....but we're broke! We're talking about cutting back our programs here at home, but we'll throw 70 million to Israel? They can raise taxes on their own people if they want that money. We should be massively scaling back all foreign aid. We're broke, that doesn't mean you apply for another credit card!
 
Thunder said:
I KNOW you are not accusing me of caring for Israel more than the United States.

Such a claim would be a baseless lie, possibly motivated by anti-Semitism.
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"Possibly motivated by anti-Semitism"? Please. This is why it's so difficult to discuss international policy with Israel, people are so quick to pull out this stupid, idiotic, baseless deflection technique.
 
Thunder said:
Iraq & Afghanistan get almost twice as much yearly aid as Israel gets, EACH.

but its the aid to Israel that gets the hate. I wonder why.
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We shouldn't be spending none of it. I shouldn't have to support the people of the world, they can get their own dinner.
 
Thunder said:
he has posted more than a few anti-Semitic articles and linked to anti-Semitic websites.

hence the logic in my conclusion
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whatever :roll:
 
AdamT said:
Well, let me clear it up for you. Israel requested the additional funding in May. Obama submitted the request to Congress at that time, and they finally approved it on July 18. Obama signed the appropriation on July 27. So I guess it's possible that it was a conspiracy by Israel, Obama, the Senate, and the Republican-controlled House to undermine Romney's field trip ... but I rather doubt it.
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Obviously you didn’t read the article in the OP…again. Note “The military aid bill sailed through Congress—just two "no" votes in the House of Representatives in May, a voice vote to clear the Senate last week.” So when you claimed ‘Republican-controlled House’ had something to do with this please connect the dots on how…especially considering that the WH and Senate is ‘Democratic-controlled’. Considering it passed the House virtually unanimously and ‘flew’ through the Senate on a VOICE VOTE one has to wonder if there wasn’t collusion between Harry and Barry…

Passed the house in MAY…MAY…House controlled the schedule…really?

Dang that kool-aid is effective...:lamo
 
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