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Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

Muppets dump Chick-Fil-A to support gay marriage - Chicago Tribune

"The Jim Henson Company has celebrated and embraced diversity and inclusiveness for over fifty years and we have notified Chick-Fil-A that we do not wish to partner with them on any future endeavors," the company said in a statement posted on their official Facebook page.

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The Henson company, whose Muppet characters are hugely popular, said its Chief Executive Lisa Henson is a "strong supporter of gay marriage and has directed us to donate the payment we received from Chick-Fil-A to GLAAD," the company said in their statement.


Chick-Fil-A has not hidden its Christian mission statement from day one, which precedes the founding of Henson's company. If Henson actually gave a damn about the issue, rather than responding to pressure and then grandstanding, they might have never chosen to associate with Chick-Fil-A at all.

It's a pity that simple symbols and characters from childhood now have to be politicized.

You know, just because someone is Christian does not inherently mean they do not believe in same sex marriage.

This isn't against Chick-Fil-A's "Christian" values.

Rather this is against the comiany's lobbying against the rights of homosexuals.
 
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ok. how exactly am I mindlessly partisan? Please explain that to me.


after you are done explaining to me how i am a mindless hack, how about you show me where i have ever said that either side was less tolerant than the other.

While you are at it show me where I have said I have no issue with the behavior of intolerance by others.

If you want to throw these types of statements out there against me how about you take some time to support them. Otherwise these are just mindless attacks

"The bias in your posts betrays a bias against people, not behavior, and makes you a standing hypocrite willing to ignore intolerance from people you agree with and to scathe at intolerance from people you have a personal agenda against. All your latest posts have done is confirm this for me and anyone else who has read them."

I pointed out several cases where conservative organizations engaged in the same kind of intolerant behavior you derided same sex marriage advocates for and you acknowledged it and then persisted to make claims indicative that only same sex marriage advocates engage in such intolerance. When pressured you made posts deriding same sex marriage advocates in general revealing that you have a personal bias against them. This is indicative that you are willing to ignore intolerant behavior from those who share your bias against same sex marriage advocates.
 
I have always "gotten it" What you don't get is that people have a right to their opinions and beliefs, and they should not be destroyed for expressing them no matter how offensive. Its called FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

What is "destroyed"?
 
Their profits in the more socially liberal areas. But there's nothing wrong with a boycott.

That is like how Starbucks has seen drop offs in their most socially conservative areas because of their pro gay stance. People are free to vote with their wallets. Money is free speech.
 
About this, a smart businessman would have shut the **** up, and never said a damn thing about this issue. His job is to sell chicken to people, not comment on controversial social issues. All the controversy surrounding this is not helping Chick-Fil-A in the slightest.

You're judging smartness, I'm not. Frankly I don't care, it's a lot of hoopla over nothing. Liberal Christian-haters ****ting their pants over Christian values is actually fun to watch. They are so ****ing stupid, and their Chicken Little attitude as though an apocalypse is coming. Hahahahaha, maybe we'll get lucky and it'll take ten years off of each one of their lives.
 
You're judging smartness, I'm not. Frankly I don't care, it's a lot of hoopla over nothing. Liberal Christian-haters ****ting their pants over Christian values is actually fun to watch. They are so ****ing stupid, and their Chicken Little attitude as though an apocalypse is coming. Hahahahaha, maybe we'll get lucky and it'll take ten years off of each one of their lives.

You ah... You ok bro?
 
Oh, but out of the shoot Chicago and Boston mayors came out guns a blazing with "I don't want that business in my city". Of course they backtracked, because they weren't elected dictators, just majors. So yes, there were some that wanted to define where he gave his money. And they weren't afraid to use political power to do it, until they found out they couldn't.

Try as I might, I still don't see any actual examples of someone (mayor or otherwise) telling the business owner where he can or can't donate money to political causes.

I DO see one or more mayors expressing outrage at the Chick-Fil-A owner's financial support of harmful causes.

I DON'T see anyone being told to whom/what they can or cannot donate money.

You DO get that expressing outrage over something != telling someone what they can/can't do, right?
 
perhaps you should go read some of the stuff people are saying on here, facebook, and even in person before making statements like this.

So you can't refute my point with logic, or facts so you say some vague statement that makes you seem to have the moral high ground. When you clearly don't, and just want to pretend that the people who are rightfully offended are actually wrong.
 
i beg to differ. have you been to or driven by a chick fil a since this whole thing started? This has helped them. I have been there personally 5 times now and each time took almost an hour. Thursday night it took forever just to park.. saturday i couldnt get food because they actually had to close the chick fil a near here because they ran out of food. This is not hurting them..

Anecdotal evidence. No way can a controversy like this(where the majority of America are against you) is good for business. They will lose money because of this.
 
i do find it a bit funny how chick fil a's owners values have not changed nor has he ever hidden them and henson had no issue entering into a partnership with him. Then when chick fil a decides to pull her crap out of its boxes suddenly she does. hell of a coincidence.

They didn't talk about it publicly before, so they have changed their public stance.
 
he is entitled to his opinion whether he owns a business or not. the fact is his restaurants in no way discriminate against gays or lesbians in service nor employment.

And Lisa Henson isn't? So when Chick-Fil-A's CEO comes out against SSM that is just him having his opinion, and he's not politicizing anything, but when Lisa Henson comes out in support of it, it's politicizing children's characters. The double standard you have here is ridiculous.
 
You're judging smartness, I'm not. Frankly I don't care, it's a lot of hoopla over nothing. Liberal Christian-haters ****ting their pants over Christian values is actually fun to watch. They are so ****ing stupid, and their Chicken Little attitude as though an apocalypse is coming. Hahahahaha, maybe we'll get lucky and it'll take ten years off of each one of their lives.

I did not know hatred and bigotry where christian values. Well, I guess I learn something new every day.
 
You're judging smartness, I'm not. Frankly I don't care, it's a lot of hoopla over nothing. Liberal Christian-haters ****ting their pants over Christian values is actually fun to watch. They are so ****ing stupid, and their Chicken Little attitude as though an apocalypse is coming. Hahahahaha, maybe we'll get lucky and it'll take ten years off of each one of their lives.

Hating LGBT people, and sending money to hate groups are not Christian values. Plain and simple.
 
They didn't talk about it publicly before, so they have changed their public stance.

umm. yes he has. this time just got more attention. furthermore chick fil a pulled the toys before the statement from what i understand

Anecdotal evidence. No way can a controversy like this(where the majority of America are against you) is good for business. They will lose money because of this.

what majority of americans? a few thousand the majority of which dont even know where a chick fil a is or were boycotting it prior to this muppet incident because of his religious views then. I doubt this cost him much of any customers. and the few it might have were off set by those who are going out to show their support.
 
So you can't refute my point with logic, or facts so you say some vague statement that makes you seem to have the moral high ground. When you clearly don't, and just want to pretend that the people who are rightfully offended are actually wrong.

you said people werent disrespecting his religious beliefs and i pointed out that it is happening right here (among many other places) mocking his belief in God and many other things. Clearly you just dont want to see them. typical.
 
umm. yes he has. this time just got more attention. furthermore chick fil a pulled the toys before the statement from what i understand

We have one picture of that sign. I'll bet that was a reaction to the Henson Company notifying them that day that they would be ending their partnership. It would make sense to notify them before going public. (which happened the next day) The one sign I would be was from close to the corporate headquarters and probably made at the HQ. Most restaurants don't have laminators. I doubt they sent those signs out "next day air" either. It was a PR damage control attempt.
 
But you see, this is the deal: the owner of a business establishment isn't making laws. He has his business interests, which are to sell chicken sandwiches to the public, for making his living. His personal opinions about gay marriage (or any other social issue) don't mean squat in relation to his operation of his business establishment. He isn't discriminating in hiring/firing/ or any other legally-controlled aspect of business that I am aware of. People are trying to turn this into some kind of civil rights issue, when it's nothing of the sort.

Bullcrap. I can't believe I missed this post. This is nothing more than a straight man exercising his heterosexual privilege at the expense of gays, period. How would you like it if we were living in a day and age where you couldn't vote, and some powerful man said that it should stay that way?
 
And Lisa Henson isn't? So when Chick-Fil-A's CEO comes out against SSM that is just him having his opinion, and he's not politicizing anything, but when Lisa Henson comes out in support of it, it's politicizing children's characters. The double standard you have here is ridiculous.

Lies and double standards are the norm, not the exception, for the Right. In order to defend a lie, more lies are required, and when that lie is also called out, another lie is needed to try to cover it up. Or, just plain ignore it. Kinda like CFA's lie about the Muppets' toys' "safety issue."
 
Try as I might, I still don't see any actual examples of someone (mayor or otherwise) telling the business owner where he can or can't donate money to political causes.

I DO see one or more mayors expressing outrage at the Chick-Fil-A owner's financial support of harmful causes.

I DON'T see anyone being told to whom/what they can or cannot donate money.

You DO get that expressing outrage over something != telling someone what they can/can't do, right?


http://www.towleroad.com/

Washington D.C. Mayor Vincent Gray has made his views about Chick-fil-A known, on Twitter:

"Given my longstanding strong support for LGBT rights & marriage equality, I would not support #hatechicken."

Gray later responded to Twitter users about his statement, adding: "What's embarrassing about supporting equal rights for your gay fellow Americans?...This is about more than their CEO's personal opinions. They also give hundreds of thousands of dollars to anti-gay groups...I said I oppose them, but cannot legally bar them...Because they give significant amounts of $$ to organizations that actively oppose equal rights for gay people."

Read more: Washington D.C. Mayor Vincent Gray Calls Chick-fil-A 'Hate Chicken'| News | Towleroad


Sounds like the DC mayor would, if he could, ban this business BECAUSE he doesn't like where the guy gives his money.
 
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Sounds like the DC mayor would, if he could, ban this business BECAUSE he doesn't like where the guy gives his money.

Actually what his quote sounds like is a response to others that want him to. He is explaining that you cannot legally bar someone just because you don't like where their money legally goes.

He is correct in this response.
 
Actually what his quote sounds like is a response to others that want him to. He is explaining that you cannot legally bar someone just because you don't like where their money legally goes.

He is correct in this response.


So, IYO, if this DC mayor had the power he'd do nothing, right?

Okay.
 
We have one picture of that sign. I'll bet that was a reaction to the Henson Company notifying them that day that they would be ending their partnership. It would make sense to notify them before going public. (which happened the next day) The one sign I would be was from close to the corporate headquarters and probably made at the HQ. Most restaurants don't have laminators. I doubt they sent those signs out "next day air" either. It was a PR damage control attempt.

chick fil a notified henson about they were pulling the toys, then the next day henson made her announcement. (according to chick fil a)
 
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